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0:00breaking down the top 10 questions that
0:01you should be asking yourself for all
0:03things running backs ahead of 2026
0:05fantasy football drafts with the one the
0:08only established the runs finest John
0:10Dagel what's up Johnny football doing
0:13great it's that time of the year where
0:14all of us are getting tagged in for
0:17seasonl long discussions tiers I saw you
0:20forawire also just put out a video of
0:22your tier running backs I along with you
0:25are also ready to discuss everything and
0:27I actually prefer to talk about running
0:29backs more than wide receivers. Maybe
0:31because there's less of them. Maybe
0:32because like there is a skeleton key in
0:34fantasies football and all it is is
0:35touches. So, we're just trying to find
0:37who's going to get touches. So, yeah,
0:39I'm really excited for this show.
0:41>> And it seems appropriate, John, because
0:43again, we're fully moving into home
0:44league's reddraft season. I get it. But
0:46a lot of times, baseball, I think, can
0:48help point us in the right direction of
0:50topics that are going to become more
0:51prominent amongst the, you know, more
0:53casual players as August comes. And this
0:56has kind of been the year of running
0:57back, man. We've seen it multiple years
0:58in a row now. These guys have finally
1:00stayed healthy. We actually have like 16
1:02to 20 running backs. You can argue
1:04project very nicely to have this like
1:06bellcow role. It seems like everyone's
1:08finally buying into running backs. I
1:09just can't help think John that once we
1:11all kind of buy into something that's
1:12when the rug pulls out.
1:14>> Correct. I agree with you and that's why
1:17I'm a lot more open even after last
1:19year. I This is not even a humble brag.
1:22I won multiple championships in in
1:24charity leagues and like friends
1:26leagues, industry leagues that you and I
1:27both play in. But I only say that
1:29because everyone thought despite the
1:32increase the past two years in elite
1:34running back production that you then
1:36had to jam two heavy running backs to
1:39start your draft. But that's not the
1:40case at all. Especially when you get
1:41into deeper 12 and 14 team leagues.
1:43There were so many championship teams
1:45last year I had where I was even
1:47starting guys like Audrey Esttomay and
1:49Devin Neil for example. Like you got to
1:51remember the running backs will come.
1:52You have to win them off the waiverwire
1:54or have them stashed, but they will
1:56happen. Even starting someone like Woody
1:58Marks and RJ Harvey in the last month
2:00could have netted you a championship
2:02because the rest of your team was then
2:04elite and being extremely efficient,
2:06especially if you drafted all the 49ers,
2:08Christian McCaffrey, Brock Perie
2:10included. So, I think there are multiple
2:12ways to win fantasy championships. I'm
2:14not necessarily trying to suddenly think
2:16zero RB is dead, but we're going to talk
2:18about some late round guys as we move on
2:20in the show.
2:21>> We've seen some weirder running back
2:22performances over the last few years.
2:24Amir Abdullah, I think, was the RB8
2:26during the 2024 fantasy playoffs.
2:28Bam/Zonovan Knight was a thing there for
2:30a little bit. Again, it really is that
2:32one position where just one injury has
2:34to happen before someone you've never
2:35even heard of. All of a sudden on the
2:37cover of those Waverwire articles. By
2:39the way guys, if you are looking for
2:40some fantastic Wavewire articles, invite
2:42you to check out Johnny's work over at
2:43ETR amongst the rest of their glorious
2:45crew. You guys really are setting the
2:47standard and I appreciate you my
2:48brother. With that, let's get into the
2:50show. John, with the top of the draft, I
2:52think everyone's going to be needing to
2:53ask themselves this question. Jir Gibbs
2:55versus Ban Robinson. If you're a hipster
2:58who prefers Jamar Chase, fine, go right
3:00ahead. But for me, Dagel, these are the
3:02top two players in fantasy football. I
3:04have been confidently just going with
3:05Jamir Gibbs because I think both him and
3:07Bejian are awesome. I think they project
3:08for similar volume. I think they're also
3:10in the prime of their careers. I just
3:12think the Lions scoring offense is going
3:14to be much, much, much better than the
3:16Atlanta Falcons. Is it really that
3:17simple?
3:19>> I think it is. And I'm not even saying
3:21this is what's going to carry over, but
3:23we do have six career starts without
3:25David Montgomery for Jir Gibbs, and he's
3:27averaged an absurd 27.4 PPR points in
3:31those six starts. Last year it was hit
3:34or miss to close out the season even
3:37with David Montgomery injured for Jir
3:38Gibbs because as we expected the
3:41offensive line cratered uh a unit that
3:43they really didn't make any improvements
3:45and just lost people during last off
3:47season. They understood that the Lions
3:49did and this year they improved it both
3:51in the draft and in free agency. So I
3:53think it's a significantly better
3:55situation for the Lions. I expect their
3:57offense to be humming along again,
3:59especially with Dan Campbell once again
4:01calling plays as he did in the second
4:03half of the year. And so I will have Jir
4:05Gibbs.
4:06>> Uh what now?
4:08>> I think Psoning's calling plays. It'll
4:10of course be a collaborative effort, but
4:12>> yeah. Uh because that was really John
4:13Morton's issue last year. A lot of play
4:15callers across the league, but John
4:17Morton literally did not learn a single
4:19thing and carry over a single thing for
4:22whatever reason from Ben Johnson. So, I
4:24would imagine Dan Campbell will not let
4:26that happen again and will still make
4:28sure the foot is on the gas at all times
4:30for this 2026 Lions offense. Having said
4:32that, Bejon Robinson still a very
4:34comfortable 102 uh last year improved in
4:38both yards per carry, touches, target
4:40share, especially points per game from
4:42the year prior. And that was including
4:44being out carried by Tyler Algier inside
4:47the 5yd line. Algier has since moved on
4:49to Arizona and maybe Brian Robinson gets
4:52that role. But really, I think Bjon
4:54Robinson is a a comfortable 102 given
4:56the running backs and wide receivers
4:58that then come back to you if you pick
5:00in the first two spots.
5:02>> Both guys capable of catching 80 passes
5:04and both guys have that one hitter
5:06quitter or home run speed that we love.
5:08So the Puket thing has just been the
5:09only potential red flag. But man, you
5:11mentioned it. Just seeing last year
5:13Campbell take over from Wharton and just
5:14kind of get the offense back to
5:16grooving, which kind of was just an
5:17example of him putting more work on Jir
5:19Gibbs plate in the first place. That
5:21should give us solace. I think it went
5:23bad last year. They made a bad OC hire
5:25and it still didn't really matter. I'm
5:27with you. I think the offensive line
5:28issues were far more detrimental than
5:30anything about Gibbs down the stretch
5:32last year.
5:32>> I'm also a petting bull. There aren't
5:35many of us, I know, but if you remove
5:37last year when everything fell apart in
5:39Arizona, which is now a tanking team,
5:41the Cardinals were second and third in
5:43team yards per carry the two years
5:46prior. I think he's actually one of the
5:48more intuitive run game callers in the
5:51entire league. And now with a beefed up
5:53offensive line, I just think it helps
5:55and makes uh gives Jir Gibbs more
5:57progressive play calling between the
5:59tackles.
6:00>> I've always looked at kind of like team
6:02running back yards before contact.
6:03That's one of those things where it can
6:05kind of give you a decent idea of like
6:06how good a schemer is and the play
6:08caller is. And we do regularly see the
6:10Ravens and the Cardinals, the teams with
6:11the dual threat quarterbacks of the
6:13world rank highly in it. But give Ping
6:15some credit for uh man do that with or
6:17without Kyler. I get it. These last
6:19again 2023 and 2024 seasons as you
6:21brought up. We did see the Cardinals
6:23actually work as a top eight offense in
6:25EPA per rush. So I'm with you there.
6:27Unlike in Petting and also [ __ ] like
6:29I've tried to just revert to some, you
6:30know, more real life ball knowers. Not
6:32that we don't know our ex's and O's, but
6:34for me, ESPN's Ben Solic, Yahoo's Nate
6:36Ty, very, very sharp guys who I lean on
6:38a lot. They both love the Drew Petting
6:40hire, so who am I to overly disagree
6:42with that? But again, guys, Jir Gibbs
6:44versus Bejon. Can't really go wrong. If
6:46you want to draft Bejan, go for it. Me
6:48and Johnny though, team Gibbs 101 gets a
6:51little more interesting after this. All
6:52right, we got Chase, we got Puka, we got
6:54JSM, maybe even our one true sun god in
6:56this next conversation. Next running
6:58back conversation though is Christian
6:59McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor. So, the
7:02common adage, John, has been like when
7:04CMC's healthy, he breaks fantasy
7:05football. That is true. I'd also argue
7:08it's pretty much true for Jonathan
7:09Taylor, man, because we only saw 2021
7:11when he led the league in rushing and
7:13then last year where he still averaged,
7:15I think, north of 20 points per game,
7:16even with the second half fallout. Those
7:18are pretty much the only two years he
7:20hasn't had some annoying early season
7:21injury. He had to eventually work his
7:22way back through. So, CMC, JT, pretty
7:25much the consensus. RB3 and RB4. Any
7:28good reason not to take them in round
7:29one? In round one, it's fine. But where
7:33are they going round one? I'm personally
7:35skeptical. And I can sit here saying
7:38this now. Even though I believe you and
7:40I did a show together last year, and I
7:42was skeptical of Saquon Barkley at that
7:44time, too. I took Bjon Robinson and I
7:47made my entire personality around
7:49Christian McCaffrey from 110 on over
7:51Saquon Barkley last year, and I'm using
7:53the same argument for Christian McAffrey
7:55this season and why I'm worried about
7:57him. Uh his 450 touches were the 10th
7:59most of the 21st century last year. And
8:02there were only 38 times that a running
8:03back handled 350 plus including the
8:06playoffs since 2014. So over the last 12
8:08years and only six of those running
8:10backs, 15.7% improved in points per game
8:13the following season. That includes
8:14Saquon Barkley last year who handled 480
8:17plus touches in 2024. Then last year
8:20lost 7.7 points per game as the RB15
8:24that you drafted in the first round. Not
8:26great. I'm not saying McAffrey is going
8:28to reach that point, but it's at least
8:31nitpicking enough in the first round
8:32where I do want other players over him,
8:35including Justin Jefferson, who we're
8:37not going to talk about on today's show,
8:38but I just think there are better
8:39situations for me to draft in. Same
8:41thing goes for Jonathan Taylor, who I'm
8:43worried about. Through week eight,
8:45everyone recalls with Daniel Jones
8:46healthy. The Colts were first in EPA per
8:48play. Jonathan Taylor in that time was
8:50the overall RB1 ahead of McAffrey with
8:5227 PPR points per game. In the second
8:55half of the season though, Daniel Jones
8:57is injured. The Colts fall to 21st in
8:59EPA per play. Jonathan Taylor falls to
9:01RB9, averaging 11 fewer points per game
9:04than that first half of the season. So,
9:06my point is when you when you zoom out
9:08and ask which Daniel Jones and Colts
9:11offense are we going to see, given
9:13Daniel Jones's career, most likely it's
9:16not the one that's the most efficient
9:17offense in the entire league. It's
9:19somewhere a median between that first
9:21and second half. And if that's the case,
9:23I am a little bit worried about Jonathan
9:24Taylor given that throughout his career,
9:26he has yet to put together a double-
9:27digit target share in every season. And
9:30that's how you spike an overall RB1
9:32finish. So, in baseball, we're talking
9:34portfolios and many teams. I'm going to
9:37naturally sprinkle in those individuals.
9:39Sure. But if anyone's watching cuz
9:40they're a home league drafter, just your
9:42recreational better and more fun fantasy
9:45football drafter, they probably care
9:47about one to three leagues. And like in
9:49my quote unquote one to three home
9:51leagues, I'm not taking Christian
9:53McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor. And
9:54that's just me.
9:55>> I tend to agree with you, but it scares
9:57the [ __ ] out of me, John.
9:59>> Oh, yeah.
9:59>> You could just be looking at it again.
10:01And I I kind of did a similar study you
10:02did and had one of the same takeaways,
10:05too, where like the yards per carry fell
10:06off quite a bit. That's kind of been the
10:08case for CMC for quite some time. Like
10:09all the rushing efficiency metrics that
10:11we, you know, fantasy alleged experts
10:13care about, they tell you that CMC was a
10:14bad rusher last year. it just doesn't
10:17matter when you're legit a wide receiver
10:19one that happens to be playing running
10:20back. So that'd be my only, you know,
10:22potential push back with CMC. It feels
10:24like we're just saying like, well, look
10:26at the history. I get it, but the
10:28history isn't literally running backs
10:30catching 100 passes like CMC.
10:32>> I completely agree with you. I just
10:34think the argument is a lot like George
10:36Pickins this year and that I understand
10:38if you missed the boat because you were
10:40scared last season with Christian
10:41McCaffrey pickings, but now you're just
10:43chasing them at the prices that we kind
10:46of figured they'd end up in. And I don't
10:48like chasing last year's points because
10:50we don't get last year's points. And if
10:52you do, please call me. I want to join
10:53your league. [laughter]
10:55>> That would be quite handy. So, last
10:56thing on JT, which is why I would still
10:58keep him RB4, even though I'm with you.
11:00I've been clicking on Monro St. Brown
11:02and even Justin Jefferson often over
11:04him. Last year, you look at teams that
11:06actually left one running back on the
11:07field for at least 90% of their snaps.
11:09Very, very rare in today's NFL. Only the
11:1149ers, the Colts, and the Raiders
11:13actually, shout out Ashton Genty, did
11:14that for at least a quarter of their
11:16games. So, that would be my one argument
11:18in favor of Jonathan Taylor. It's that
11:20he's not really this guy who doesn't
11:21catch passes anymore. He pretty much had
11:22career-high fantasy numbers from
11:24receiving last year. We don't have a
11:25Naim Heind to really be worrying about
11:27these days. So, could that change with
11:28Giddens or McCullen or one of these
11:30other guys? I guess. But I do think like
11:32I've heard the wide draft Jonathan
11:34Taylor when Dererick Henry is there
11:35around later. And Henry's, we'll talk
11:37about him in a minute. He's perfectly
11:38fine. But JT, I think his newfound pass
11:40game floor a little bit maybe
11:42underestimated.
11:44I understand the argument and again I'm
11:46going to sprinkle these guys in, but
11:48Jonathan Taylor is one that most likely
11:52I won't have a lot of given his ADP and
11:54the fact as we move along here, uh, the
11:57next tier of running backs, I like a
11:59couple guys quite a bit over JT and
12:01Christian McCaffrey.
12:03>> How do you like my name, John? RB5
12:05through RB12 right now. And I'm just
12:07using baseball because I do think that
12:08ADP will generally be how we shift
12:10things in home league. But from picks 11
12:12through 18, again, we have freaking
12:15eight different running backs going. The
12:17Great Wall of RBs, John, that's what
12:19we're going with. [snorts]
12:20>> It's very catchy.
12:22>> Thank you. Out of those RBs, John,
12:24again, we have Ashen Genty, James Cook,
12:25Saquon Barkley, Omaran Hampton, Kenneth
12:27Walker, Chase Brown, Deonte Chan, and
12:29Dererick Henry. Again, this is what you
12:30guys are going to be seeing in drafts,
12:32end of round one into the mid part of
12:33round two. Which one of these guys do
12:35you want on your team the most, and
12:36which one scares you the most?
12:38>> I'm going to take Ashton Genty over
12:40Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor.
12:42Uh, I think he's in for a massive year.
12:45Last year, of course, was blaming solely
12:48the offensive line and play calling,
12:51quarterback play as well. We're just
12:53changing everything up for Genty this
12:55season and having the number one overall
12:57pick at quarterback, a offensive
12:59coordinator or play caller head coach I
13:01should say in Clint Kubak that just
13:02allowed Sam Darnold to have a careerhigh
13:05and yards per attempt and vastly
13:07improved offensive line including the
13:09one of the best centers in the entire
13:10league Ty Linder bomb now really calling
13:12the shots from the center of their
13:14trenches. Not only that, but the Raiders
13:16last year were one of only 12 teams in
13:19the last decade to score 80% of their
13:21touchdowns through the air.
13:22Unsurprisingly, that's a high number.
13:24So, no, none of those 12 teams have been
13:26able to duplicate that number the
13:29following year. Thus, we're kind of
13:30expecting more rushing touchdowns. And I
13:33looked at where running backs were both
13:36drafted and then finished in PPR leagues
13:39on Twitter, by the way, not Jay Dagel,
13:41uh, for those follow-up seasons. And
13:44there are a handful of minor hits and
13:47misses, but like if you draft the RB14,
13:50let's say, and he finishes the RB30,
13:52that seems detrimental. You can get by
13:54with that. That doesn't win or lose your
13:57league and vice versa. But there were
13:59massive hits for those running backs in
14:02the following years. Uh Orleans Darkwis,
14:05if you recall, for the Giants in 2017,
14:07was undrafted. He finishes the RB 40 in
14:09points per game. James Robinson in 2020,
14:12I believe it was, was the RB67 drafted.
14:15He finishes the RB7 in points per game.
14:18So, Ashton Genty is being drafted, as
14:19you said, at the end of the first round,
14:21the RB5. There's not many more hills for
14:23him to climb to be any higher, but I do
14:26think there's the outs for him to
14:28outscore Christian McCaffrey this
14:30season. So, that's a player that I'm
14:32focusing highly on at the first second
14:34round term. The other one John the the
14:38big issue here would just be do we think
14:40the offense is going to be that much
14:42better improved? Sure. All right. They
14:43don't have much room to go but up. I
14:45like Clint Kubak too. You mentioned
14:46Linderbomb. Quarterback situation should
14:48be better. Again, not a high bar. I do
14:50like leaning though because this is
14:51July. We're all optimistic about
14:53everyone. It's the fun thing to do
14:54during the summer months. I like leaning
14:56on the Vegas implied team scoring ranks
14:58at this point and seeing what the, you
14:59know, people in Sin City think about it.
15:01Raiders offense 28th right now in again
15:04implied scoring rank. I went ahead and I
15:06did look in the past at how correlated
15:08our high-end fantasy running backs with
15:10their team scoring rank and it is pretty
15:12strong man. Only quarterbacks actually
15:14in fact had a stronger kind of R
15:15coefficient when looking at that thing.
15:17That said, the two the I should say the
15:20biggest variable that helped running
15:22backs and bad scoring offenses still be
15:23great in fantasy land, it was that pass
15:25catching upside. Man, I think the
15:27average of like the 14 running backs who
15:28have pulled this off. Average at least
15:3050 catches. The medium was about the
15:32same thing. And it was like 12 of the
15:33last 13 caught at least 40 balls.
15:35Derrick County was the only one that
15:37didn't do that. So that would be my
15:39alert for like Ashen Genty. Are you conf
15:40that he's actually going to have a high
15:42target share in Las Vegas because again
15:44that seems to be the cheat code in fancy
15:46land getting that full point per
15:47reception for our running backs. If
15:49you're catching 60 70 passes, man, it is
15:51awfully hard to bust even if you're in a
15:53bad offense. I am fairly confident
15:55especially because why it took until
15:57they started healthy scratching Raheem
15:59Moster I'll never know but from that
16:01point forward in the second half of the
16:02year that's when Genty had a double-
16:03digit target share and in terms of elus
16:06breaking tackles again it he was
16:08actually at a a terrific rate it's just
16:10that he was getting crushed behind the
16:12line of scrimmage at a league high rate
16:14because his offensive line last season
16:16was terrible
16:17>> they were they were so RB5 Ashen Denty
16:20is going to be John's click among the
16:21group who scares you
16:24You talk about fading Christian
16:25McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor. Uh the
16:27one I'm scared about who I'm going to
16:29have zero of in the second round is my
16:32boy Aggie great Devon Achan who
16:34benefited the last couple years with the
16:36second high third highest target shares
16:38in his position because of the
16:40deficiencies of Tua Tonga a statue
16:43quarterback. Now we're taking out Tua
16:45and adding a rushing quarterback and
16:47Malik Willis. We're taking away Mike
16:49McDaniel who then understands how to
16:52change the players and get the best out
16:54of them in his offense. And that's why I
16:56assume Achan had such a high target
16:58share. But then we're also adding an
16:59entirely different head coach and
17:01offensive coordinator and Bobby Sloic as
17:03well. I'm just not sure this target
17:05share and thus the ceiling carries over
17:07for Achan, especially with a rushing
17:10quarterback taking away carries
17:12logically. So, Achan is the player in
17:14the significantly worse situation that
17:16unfortunately I won't have any of.
17:19>> And it's just one of those things, man,
17:20where I know what we just talked about,
17:22all right, bad offenses. We can still
17:23have running backs overcome that by
17:25being gifted pass catchers, which A Chan
17:27is, but man, we're taking a big leap of
17:30faith to assume Bobby Slo's going to
17:31keep Achan anywhere near as involved as
17:33McDaniel was. I'm with you on the two
17:35and Malik Malik Willis difference as
17:36well. Malik Willis over these last two
17:38seasons, single highest scramble rate in
17:40the league in terms of how many times
17:42he's taken off per drop back. You guys
17:44have watched two a play. All right, he's
17:45bottom five, but you just know again
17:47from watching this dude that he's
17:48nowhere even close to that. So, that's
17:50the issue, man. Because I've seen also
17:51the push back. We're like, well, dual
17:53threat quarterbacks help their teams run
17:54game efficiency. And that's true. The
17:55grab and read option game. We've seen
17:57guys like Mike Vic, Tyrod Taylor over
17:59the years, like running backs have more
18:01yards per carry with them than without
18:02them. But Dgo, like an extra point4
18:05yards per carry doesn't make up for all
18:07the loss and target share, and it
18:08especially doesn't make up for these
18:10quarterbacks factoring into the rushing
18:11touchdown equation once we get to the
18:13goal line.
18:14>> And I also want to give a shout out to
18:16Saquon Barkley, who I I believe his ADP
18:18should be flipped with Jonathan Taylor
18:20this year. You just have to ignore
18:22literally everything the Eagles did with
18:24Kevin Patulo last season. Uh, we're
18:26getting Shawn Manion now, who does come
18:28from Shawn McY and the Rams, but more
18:30importantly, at least in camp, seems
18:32very much open-minded to a far more
18:34progressive offense, not limiting the
18:37Eagles and their most talented players.
18:39Uh, you've, like myself, have written
18:42about the Vikings and Eagles, and it's
18:43funny because when you do that, all
18:45you're saying the entire time is career
18:47worst mark, career low number. Uh,
18:49that's what it is for like the Eagles
18:51and the Vikings across the board. And
18:52both situations have improved
18:54dramatically in 2026. So Saquon Barkley
18:57is also a player who I did not draft
18:58last year, but it's a new season and I
19:01think it's going to we're going to get
19:02not necessarily the 2024 numbers, but a
19:05top three top four running back finish
19:07is very plausible.
19:08>> Now Saquon is the guy I am highlighting
19:10over this, but again, a lot of good
19:11points with Genty. I certainly don't
19:12want to be missing the boat on him as
19:14well. It is funny with some of these
19:16offenses like Washington and obviously
19:18Philly and I'm forgetting uh the other
19:20one, but uh oh, Baltimore with Declan
19:22Doyle. These first-time play callers,
19:24it's all going to be great, John.
19:25They're going to be under center.
19:26They're going to use play action.
19:27They're going to use motion. It's all
19:28going to work out and just be fantastic
19:30for everyone involved. But in Philly's
19:32case, that is the one situation where
19:34I'm like, good God, is that Barlo. This
19:36guy has to be better.
19:38>> Has to be. And that's kind of one of the
19:39lessons as every year, you know, we do
19:41this a little bit longer. Now, it's been
19:43too long, frankly. But we we learn a
19:46little bit more every season and see
19:47where we went wrong. And I've said this
19:49on shows before, where I went the most
19:51wrong last year was trusting that the
19:55play callers uh who took over were just
19:57going to take what was right the year
20:00prior. Again, John Morton did not from
20:02Ben Johnson. Kevin Patulo did not from
20:05Kell Moore. And that happened across the
20:07league. Nick Kaye too for the Texans.
20:09And so just because you get a a
20:11coordinator change doesn't mean it's
20:12going to be different. But at least for
20:14the Eagles, it can't be as bad. Like
20:17even league average would be
20:18significantly better for these Eagles
20:20players and their ADP. So I'm just
20:22trusting Manny in this situation.
20:25>> I was hoping that Tanner Angstrand like
20:26you know would have stolen Ben Johnson's
20:28playbook kind of like the water boy
20:30coach back in the day who you know got
20:31got but unfortunately that wasn't meant
20:33to be either. So please please new
20:36coaches just just help our guys and
20:38fans. That's all we're asking. Next
20:39stretch of running backs John we got
20:41dogs and probably bad offenses. Right.
20:43Jeremiah Love, Bree Hall, Travis ETN,
20:45lesser extent in those two guys, but
20:47still also got kind of boring veterans
20:49and great offenses. Kyron Williams,
20:50Jamonte Williams, Josh Jacobs. Still
20:52guys who, you know, we shouldn't be
20:54surprised if they finish as RB1s, but
20:55obviously a reason why we don't
20:56necessarily have them ranked that way.
20:58What has been your general round three
21:00strategy around these guys? And do you
21:01have a strong take on anyone involved?
21:04>> I do believe the dead zone really starts
21:06around Kyron Williams and Breece Hall.
21:08Perhaps they they bounce back and ruin
21:11me because of that. But if you look at
21:13historically, Shawn McY has leaned on
21:16one running back. And for the first time
21:18ever last season, that did not happen.
21:21Before the Rams buy, Kavern Williams
21:23averaged 18.2 touches per game.
21:25Afterwards, just 16.9. The actual share
21:28of touches dropped from 74% to 60%. A
21:31massive drop. And that benefited Blake
21:33Corm, who was the more explosive player
21:36in the second half. Cororm actually led
21:37all running backs in success rate last
21:39year and finished up second only to
21:41Achan in his rate of 10 yard carries. So
21:44I am out on a Kairen Williams committee.
21:46But before that I do love two players in
21:49particular. Uh let's wait and see I
21:51should say on Jeremiah loves ADP because
21:55I'm interested. I understand the
21:56Cardinals have the league's toughest
21:57schedule. They're really rebuilding and
22:00it's plausible that no one in that
22:02organization is there after this year.
22:04That's how really bad this situation is
22:06for Arizona. But I like to take a a big
22:09picture look at everything. And Ryan
22:11Heath, who's doing tremendous work at
22:13fantasy points, I'm sure he'll be on
22:14this show with you at some point. Uh he
22:16had mentioned that, you know, for speed
22:18score when we're looking at how these
22:20players have fared in terms of their
22:21size and 40 time. Jeremiah Love, uh just
22:25like Jir Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, and
22:28Travis ETN, those were the last first
22:30round running backs with a speed score
22:32of 110 plus. Jeremiah Love fits that
22:34mold, fits into that bucket. And so
22:36[snorts] even though Jir Gibbs' rookie
22:38year was the RB8 in per game points in a
22:40committee with David Montgomery, Bjan
22:42Robinson was the RB 17 in points per
22:44game in a committee with Tyler Algier.
22:46Although these players still started
22:47slow, ended strong and when they were
22:49isolated from injuries around their
22:51committee were amazing. That maybe could
22:53be the case for Love this year with
22:55Tyler Algier. I still think he's just
22:57put in the same breath as those guys and
22:59could eventually emerge um as a top 12
23:02running back. So, I'll I'll take a
23:04chance and swing on that ceiling in the
23:05third round. And then I I think another
23:08great one who's going to go behind Kyron
23:10Williams and Brie Hall is Travis ETN.
23:13The Saints are the opposite of the
23:15Cardinals this year and that they're
23:16projected to face Warren Sharp's second
23:18easiest schedule and ETN as we know is
23:21at the very minimum a workhorse. He's
23:24had 290 touches in two of his last three
23:26years. And the Saints offense last year
23:28finished 29th in yards per carry. Now
23:30you're getting, although volatile, an
23:32explosive running back in Travis ETN,
23:34who can sporadically make everyone
23:36better. So, I like ETN a lot in that
23:38Kell Moore offense that last year was
23:40first in plays per game.
23:42>> What's the argument for ETN over
23:44Javvante? Because is ETN maybe a little
23:46bit better in real life? Sure, I'll give
23:48you that. But I don't need any guesswork
23:51to conclude the Cowboys offense is going
23:52to be a freaking wagon this year. I am a
23:54little bit more more worried about the
23:55Saints version.
23:57>> I am a little bit concerned that the
23:59Cowboys offense could be different. Like
24:00we're all copying and pasting their
24:02their passing numbers from last year.
24:04And Dak has always been one of the best
24:05quarterbacks in the league. Uh most
24:07efficient one of the most efficient
24:08passers I should say whenever everyone's
24:10been healthy. That's really been a
24:12struggle. But the defense is not going
24:15to be the same as last year. like all
24:16the the dogs they added, especially if
24:19you look at their splits whenever they
24:21traded for Quinn and Williams, they
24:22quietly became
24:24>> they they quietly became one of the best
24:25run defense in the entire league and
24:27then teams just started throwing on
24:29them. But now we're adding Caleb DS and
24:31other players who I think are going to
24:33make a significant impact for Christian
24:35Parker or new defensive coordinator
24:36there. So, I I am curious if the Cowboys
24:39can actually carry over that ceiling and
24:42maybe they're just a better team this
24:43year that is not as good for fantasy.
24:46>> Any concern about Alvin Chimera? Seems
24:48like he wants to play football this
24:49year.
24:50>> Do the Saints want to play football this
24:52year? That's my concern.
24:53>> I know, man. I just if I hear you. If
24:57ETN, if we don't have the Chimera
24:59factor, if they decide, hey, you know
25:00what? I would like to go play with my
25:02old friend Shawn Peyton. or if the
25:03Saints just say, "You know what? We
25:05appreciate everything you've done. See
25:06you. Best of luck with everything and
25:08they cut him." Okay. I just feel like
25:09they already would have done it by now.
25:11I totally get shooting ETN the top of
25:13this kind of tier of players if he is
25:15going to be just the only running back
25:16involved. But I'm just worried that
25:18Chimera is still there. We get to week
25:19one and it's like way closer to a 6040
25:22split than he was anticipating.
25:24>> Completely fair. I've actually just
25:27washed Kamara out of my mind because I
25:30genuinely don't think he's on the roster
25:33uh in week one, but I could very well be
25:35wrong.
25:36>> You should not look at my underdog
25:37exposure, Johnny. We are playing some
25:38risky
25:39>> I've heard about Jerry Judy. Don't
25:40worry.
25:41>> Oh my god. Yeah, don't even get
25:42[laughter] me going with that one. So,
25:44Jeremiah is an interesting one though
25:45because again once we're starting like
25:48earlier in the offseason, I feel like he
25:49was being pitch and hold as this like
25:50round two pick and I definitely wasn't
25:52doing that. But more and more as we get
25:53in to round three, you know, Josh
25:55Allen's off the board. we already have,
25:57you know, the tight ends we really like
25:59or we're just kind of waiting for round
26:00four for Coulson Lovelin anyway. Like
26:02there is a point where we're starting to
26:04get in these wide receivers where it's
26:05like yeah maybe it is going to be the
26:07lab makoni or maybe it is going to be a
26:09mecha IA or Jaylen Wald or one of these
26:11guys or maybe we just take the number
26:13three overall pick who we know is
26:14explosive who we know can catch the
26:16football and yeah he's not in a great
26:17offense but man if that Cardinals
26:20offense is just average below average
26:23instead of dog [ __ ] John like we're
26:25going to be like why didn't we just
26:26draft the freaking baller in round three
26:27and worry about the rest later. And I
26:30think that's what Jeremiah Love and
26:32Travis ETN allow me to do because I
26:34really want to make all of my drafts
26:36about winning that third tier of wide
26:40receivers. Zay Flowers, Lad McConi,
26:42Amecha Ibuka, Terry McLaren, Luther
26:44Burden, Mike Evans, all those guys are
26:47going to compete to be top 12 wide
26:49receivers, not being drafted as top 12
26:51wide receivers. And I want to hammer
26:54that tier, four to six of them. And so
26:57what running backs can I take that still
26:59allow me to carry out that draft plan?
27:02And I think ETN and Love still
27:04potentially do that. That's also though
27:06why I'll probably jam Ashton Jenjenty
27:08and Saquon Barkley up my home league
27:10boards and then pick apart the wide
27:12receivers in rounds three through eight.
27:15And we'll talk a little more overall
27:16strategy here at the end too. But that
27:18is kind of John where I don't even feel
27:20the need to go with the double click
27:22necessarily. But hero RB in particular
27:25if you will call superhero where you get
27:26two running backs early. I'm more so
27:28than just hero RB. Give me the Bejon.
27:30Give me Gibbs or something. I'll figure
27:32out the RB2 later when I got probably a
27:34sick tight end and then four or five of
27:35those wide receivers you mentioned.
27:37>> And again, Bejon and Gibbs, you have to
27:39be one of your first two picks. By the
27:41way, uh I I was thinking about this last
27:43night. I clearly was under the
27:45influence. Uh, we are just one month
27:48away from pretty much guaranteeing
27:51someone in our league takes Brian
27:52Robinson over Bejian Robinson. And I
27:54absolutely cannot wait because you
27:57should not allow them to take that
27:59sticker off the board. They should keep
28:01Brian Robinson at the 102 whenever they
28:03inevitably draft him.
28:05>> If that sticker hits the board, it's
28:06done. I don't care if you messed up.
28:08>> Exactly. We've already made that rule in
28:10my league, by the way. Once that
28:11happens, because it's going to happen,
28:13it's you. It's all you from there. I
28:15absolutely love it. I actually went into
28:17an ESPN auction mockdraft lobby in like
28:20the middle of June on a Tuesday. I think
28:22there was four of us in there and I
28:23nominated Brian Robinson for 50 bucks
28:25hoping that someone would just not catch
28:28it. I got Brian Robbins for 50 bucks,
28:30John. Apparently the uh ESPN auction
28:32mockdraft lobbies are a little bit
28:34sharper uh than I gave him credit for.
28:36So, shout out to those guys. All right,
28:38we've kind of gone through basically
28:39like the top 18 19 or so running backs
28:43at this point. actually had a video go
28:44up on this channel with my guy Jagger
28:46May breaking down zero RB strategy. And
28:49this was kind of like the part that we
28:51just said, okay, we've gotten past Kyro
28:53Morris, we gotten past Josh Jacobs, like
28:55RB20 on is about what you should expect
28:57to be taking running backs round four,
28:59round five and beyond. These are kind of
29:00like our zero RB heroes or at least we
29:02would like to think. Again, with this
29:04range, we have a mix of players. We got
29:05the horrible 2025 injury. Now they
29:08should be go should be ready to go in
29:09week one. How healthy Cam Scaboo, Quinn
29:12Sean Judkins. We got other guys where
29:13it's like, yeah, there are going to be
29:15touches for him and decent offenses, but
29:16what's a split going to look like?
29:18DeAndre Swift, Trayvon Henderson, Bucky
29:19Irving, Bashaw 2, Ninja Darian Price.
29:22And then we have the potential dead zone
29:23vibes, lack of pass down roll, how
29:25good's the offense going to be? Dave
29:26Montgomery has been getting a lot of
29:28flack for that. Actively clicking or
29:30fading any of these guys? Like, was
29:32there a name or two that really piqu
29:33your interest there?
29:35Yeah, when I talk about the running back
29:36dead zone, I I come back always though,
29:41assuming I'm still not hammering wide
29:43receivers in this spot. I come back for
29:46two players. One is none other than
29:49boring David Montgomery. The changes the
29:52Texans had this off season emphasized
29:55David Montgomery strengths. Whether it's
29:57Ed Ingram, who they signed for 37
29:59million, I believe it was. They brought
30:01back Trent Brown at tackle, drafted
30:03Caleb Ruten in the first round. Those
30:05three guys adding to their offensive
30:07line, they all rank elite at Pro
30:09Football Focus in gap blocking schemes
30:13rather than man blocking. And Dave
30:15Montgomery's yards per carry, 5.7 in gap
30:19blocking last year per FTN Fantasy. It's
30:22a terrific situation. If you're curious
30:24how they're going to use him, just
30:25recall a couple years ago they traded a
30:27seventh round pick for Joe Mixon. Gave
30:29him 20 touches per game as fantasy's
30:31RB9. They gave a fourth and seventh for
30:34David Montgomery. They are going to use
30:36him until he cannot be used anymore. So,
30:38I think he's just a boring we're going
30:40to beat you down and win games RB2 that
30:43I'm definitely interested in. Also,
30:46I thought I was going to be fading this
30:48individual, but ADP didn't catch up to
30:51really the run out that Bashel Tutin has
30:53had all off season where they haven't
30:55been interested really in adding anyone.
30:57I understand Chris Rodriguez, Liam
30:58Cohen's boy from college is there, but
31:00also Bashel Tutin is volatile enough in
31:03being an explosive player who perhaps
31:06doesn't pan out. You have to remember in
31:09baseball you mix in Chris Rodriguez,
31:10that's fine. But in season long leagues,
31:13all we care about from fourth, fifth
31:15round on, maybe even before that, is
31:17ceiling. And Basel Tuton is the kind of
31:19runner as the second most athletic
31:22running back in combine history only
31:24because Mike Washington showed up for
31:25the Raiders and is now the most athletic
31:27running back ever. Basel Tuton is the
31:29kind of player who can win your league,
31:31especially if you're taking him at his
31:33cost. So, I'm going to just take a shot
31:36on Basil Tutin every time and cross my
31:38fingers it works out after finishing
31:40with the fifth highest success rate of
31:42any running back last season.
31:44>> I am also a 2026 Tuton guy. Wasn't in
31:48the bandwagon so much last year, but new
31:50year, new me. The thing I keep coming
31:51back to, man, is like this borderline
31:53RB2, if not even high-end RB3 price tag.
31:56I feel like that's where Toutton lands
31:58in the weekly ranks. If it is like a
32:006040
32:02split between him and Crod or 603010 Sha
32:04Laquent Allen Jr. If we just see him
32:07week one it's like oh man Tutin had 18
32:10combined carries and targets. Crod had
32:12six 75% snaps in that offense bro like
32:16Bashalt Tuton is the one guy that sticks
32:17out here where as soon as we get
32:19reasonable usage that we can I think
32:22reasonably expect the lead running back
32:24here in offense. We like Bash Ton could
32:25be ranked in the top 12 as early as week
32:27two or week three. completely agree. And
32:30again, it could go wrong, but all I care
32:32about is upside in our home leagues. And
32:34I think he offers the kind of upside
32:36that could then suddenly sneak and we
32:38could be drafting in the second or third
32:40round next year.
32:41>> So, I'm with you. I'm chasing the
32:42upside, too. That's why I feel like it's
32:44a little bit backwards to also be cool
32:45with Dave Montgomery. Is that more so
32:47like a build type of thing? Because I
32:49will admit, okay, if I found my way to
32:51get, you know, three awesome wide
32:52receivers early, I got a Coloulston
32:54Lovelin there and I don't have a running
32:55back yet. Yeah. Okay, I am a little more
32:57willing to take a guy whose ceiling is
32:59probably more of a low-end, you know,
33:00RB1 like a Dave Montgomery. Is that kind
33:03of where you're coming from?
33:04>> Coming from a usage standpoint? Yeah.
33:06Again, there's no skeleton key in all of
33:07fantasy football, but projecting touches
33:09is as close as we get for especially at
33:12running back. And so Dave Montgomery is
33:14a guy given the mix and workload that I
33:16mentioned. I really do think we're
33:17looking at 20 plus touches per game. um
33:20they're and they may not be exciting,
33:21but also we don't give Dave Montgomery
33:24enough credit for earning those touches
33:25alongside Jir Gibbs. We always just
33:27wanted to see only Jir Gibbs, but Dave
33:29Montgomery was very good when he was
33:31healthy for Detroit.
33:32>> Kind of like the DeAndre Swift thing,
33:34too. They get kicked the curb for a
33:35really freaking good running back.
33:37Perhaps gave him a little too much
33:38slander for that. So, well said. I will
33:40say there is a skeleton key, John. His
33:42name is Marshon Lloyd, but we'll save
33:44that topic for another day.
33:46>> Would you let's paid as well. Do we have
33:49time?
33:50>> What's your fade? Yeah, go.
33:51>> Yeah. So, we talk about this to your
33:53players. Uh, the first thing I look for,
33:56like my alarms go off whenever we start
33:58projecting running backs who have never
34:00had large workloads for large workloads.
34:03And Jadarian Price, I can't believe the
34:06cost. Uh, just 295 touches on his
34:09collegiate resume. And despite that
34:12small workload, still four fumbles, only
34:1415 career catches. and even on a per
34:17route basis because people say, "Oh, he
34:18just didn't get targets, didn't get
34:20catches because he didn't play."
34:21Jeremiah Love was first in this class
34:23and target per route run. Uh Jiren Price
34:26was second to last in target per run
34:29among this class. Even when he played,
34:30he could not earn targets at all. And
34:32now we're trying to jam him 18 touches
34:34per game just because he got drafted in
34:36the first round for an offense that
34:38plays outdoors without Clint Kubak.
34:40There is no chance in hell we are taking
34:43Jenerian Price at ADP. No way.
34:46>> Okay, I do appreciate you making that
34:48argument without trying to act like
34:49George Helani is some sort of big
34:51concern that we need to be worried
34:52about.
34:53>> I will give you credit there. I think
34:55it's more of a Kenneth Walker situation
34:57receiving wise. Sure, we haven't seen
34:59it, but we have no reason to actually
35:00think that Price can't catch the
35:02football. Funny but true, John. 55
35:04receptions during his last two seasons
35:06in high school. Okay, how about that for
35:08Darian Price? Then he like ruptured his
35:10Achilles, I think it was early at ND. We
35:12don't talk about that anymore. So, I
35:14hear you from the profile standpoint. A
35:16lot of people did believe it was a reach
35:18for him to go round one in the first
35:19place, but don't you think there is a
35:21chance that we're sitting here in
35:22November just being like, "Yeah, why
35:24didn't I take the round one running back
35:25on the Seahawks, though?"
35:27>> I would be shocked if we're sitting here
35:29doing that. If you if you loved Zamir
35:31White two years ago, you're going to
35:32love JM Prize this year. Love
35:35[laughter and gasps]
35:36>> Fair. I will say out of this group, I
35:38prefer Swift. I prefer pretty much
35:41everyone other than Bucky Irving J to
35:44Jarian Price. I can't get behind Bucky
35:45this year.
35:46>> Well, it's it's very obvious all the
35:48signs they've given us in Tampa Bay that
35:51they want to use a committee whether it
35:52be allowing Shawn Tucker to be there
35:54inside the fiveback last season now
35:56adding Kenneth Gainwell. And I don't
35:58copy paste Kenneth Gainwell's target
36:00share from last year, which you know,
36:02we'll discuss Aaron Rogers in a bit here
36:03for another running back I really like
36:05in the mid rounds. But the fact is they
36:07now have a bruising running back at the
36:09goal line, a passcatching back and Bucky
36:11Irving between the 20s. And so Bucky
36:14Irving, if he's not going to get those
36:15target shares because of his of being
36:17undersized, we are now seeing it kind of
36:19trickle out throughout his career that
36:20he's battling multiple injuries. It just
36:23doesn't seem like the ADP is worth the
36:25squeeze.
36:26>> Last thing on Tooten because again I'm
36:28with you and I want to just continue to
36:29hammer home that he is our big target
36:30here in this range. Don't love the Chris
36:33Rodriguez foot injury, John. I'm even a
36:35little curious if it could be one that,
36:36you know, rhymes with KissFrank or
36:38something uh going on there. It's not
36:40ideal, man.
36:43>> I agree with you. Uh and that's about it
36:46for me in this tier, though. I I think
36:48I'm comfortably talked about where I'm
36:51coming back in and then zooming back
36:52out. I'm still deciding personally in my
36:55draft strategy what my tight end plan
36:57is. It It's Brock Bowers over Trey
36:59McBride. I won't have any Trey McBride
37:01again. This is not the show for that.
37:02invite me back on. We can talk about it
37:03in depth. Um, but when do I when and if
37:06do I draft Colston Lovelin? If not, then
37:08who am I waiting for? That's really what
37:10I'm working through right now.
37:12>> It is interesting the fall off that kind
37:14of happens around round 10, round 11
37:16with tight ends. But to John's point,
37:18story for another day. Let's get really
37:20gross. Now, personally, I found very
37:22little reason and accordingly I haven't
37:24done this much to click Tony Pard, Chuba
37:26Hubard, or RJ Harvey this off
37:28seasonason. Good idea or bad idea?
37:30>> Terrific idea. Uh, I mean, you can't you
37:32can't take the starters that are worse
37:34than the backups. We we want to just
37:36rather take those pot shots on the
37:38players we think have a higher ceiling,
37:40even if we have to wait them out. And I
37:42think that's what's ultimately going to
37:43happen for this this crew of backups.
37:45But starting with Tony Pard, uh, that's
37:48not the pass catching back. It will be
37:51most likely Nick Singleton who again we
37:53will probably have to wait on Nicholas
37:54Singleton to earn that role later on.
37:57But players who have played historically
37:59on passing downs have more outs in those
38:01laterers rounds. And Nicholas Singleton
38:03did earn a double- digit target share in
38:05his last two seasons with Penn State. He
38:07also averaged one and a half yards per
38:09out run and his last three playing slot
38:13or out wide on 20% of snaps. So, he
38:15could definitely be the pass catching
38:16back uh who could outscore Tony Pard.
38:20>> Well, Spears should be it from week one
38:21either way.
38:22>> Correct. The thing is about drafting
38:24Spears 2 though is that he has not been
38:27able to beat out Tony Pard and so I
38:29don't want to then take that chance
38:31thinking he's the one who wins the
38:33backfield. Most likely, you know,
38:35really, most likely we are dropping Taj
38:38Spears and Nicholas Nicholas Singleton
38:40by week five. That's fine. But that's
38:42why you take the ceiling shots.
38:43Understanding we're going to grind the
38:44waiver wire anyway.
38:45>> RJ Harvey, uh, it's always bad. You do
38:47this like me, so I know you understand.
38:49We may be talking to each other. It's
38:51always bad when you have to scroll to
38:52the last page to find a player's
38:54numbers. Cam Ward is the first player
38:55that comes to mind. RJ Harvey is the Cam
38:58Ward of running backs where you have to
39:00go to the very last page to get to his
39:02success rate, his explosive rate. You
39:04could stay there if it talks about
39:05getting stuffed to the line of
39:06scrimmage. R.J. Darby was incredible at
39:08that stat, but very clearly Shawn
39:11Payeyton then focused on Jonah Coleman,
39:14who does have also an elite resume. 6.8
39:17yards per carry at just 20 years old
39:20with Arizona, 80 catches on 90 targets
39:22in his last three years. And his yards
39:24per route run last year was second in
39:26the class behind Jeremiah Lot. So Joe
39:28Nicoleman is someone who I actually
39:29think it's going to happen much quicker
39:31than Nicholas Singleton for Denver,
39:34albeit it still may have be a committee
39:36with R.J. Harvey. And then of course
39:38Jonathan Brooks behind Chuba Hubard. My
39:40only issue with Brooks is that he still
39:42uses an O and Jonathan. I wish he
39:44changed it up, but that's fine. I know
39:45how to spell it. I I know how to spell
39:47it, so that's okay. But really just
39:49think about I talk about not being able
39:52to beat out the starter. Chuba Hubard
39:54could not beat out Rico Dael who was
39:56Walter Peyton whenever he got a chance
39:58without Chuba Hubard. And so Jonathan
40:00Brooks is at such a discount compared to
40:03Chuba Huard. Regardless of whether we've
40:05seen him play football and we haven't
40:06for two years, I just think taking that
40:09dart on Jonathan Brooks is perfectly
40:11fine compared to what we know Chuba
40:14Hubard does not offer us.
40:16>> Let's everyone listening here, let's
40:18just all agree. Don't talk about
40:20Jonathan Brooks. All right? Let's keep
40:22it our secret. Let's keep him as a late
40:24round pick. He's going outside the top
40:26120 on Sleeper and ESPN right now. I was
40:28in an FFP draft where I saw him go ahead
40:30of Chuba. And it wasn't that ridiculous,
40:32John. I could I I I'm going in a draft.
40:34I'm looking at my ranks. It tells me
40:36Chuba Hubard is the next player to
40:38draft. What do I do? I don't draft Chuba
40:40Hubard. I move him down in my ranks.
40:41He's the Corland Sutton of running
40:43backs. I don't want anything to do with
40:44it.
40:45>> Completely agree. And Brooks is
40:46definitely going to be the biggest riser
40:48in FFPC drafts as we move along this
40:50summer. No doubt.
40:51Man, oh man. So, the RJ Harvey stuff, I
40:54just I get worried because I'm so out in
40:56the guy. Like, I ranked him like an
40:57insulting RB41. Like, that's just a
41:00point where it's like, oh my gosh. Like,
41:02really? Yeah, I'm saying really because
41:03I don't see it. It wasn't as good as
41:04Dobbins. Wasn't wasn't good at all last
41:06year. And I'm with you on everything
41:07about Coleman could be a nuisance to him
41:09both pass pro and goal line. Also still
41:11facing all those, you know, just
41:12chasing, I should say, the Shawn
41:13Payeyton, you know, Alvin Chimera,
41:15Darren Sprouls, ghost from past years,
41:17and we just haven't really seen that
41:18show up in Denver as well. So, yeah,
41:20R.J. R.J. Harvey not quite doing it for
41:22me. That said, I'm not really interested
41:23in Coleman or Dobbins either, man. I
41:26just think it's going to be this
41:27annoying three-back committee. If one
41:29guy gets hurt, like, all right, we'll
41:30adjust at that point. But the problem is
41:33last year, and I see this push back a
41:34lot. It's like, all right, well, what
41:35happened when Dobins? He gets hurt every
41:36year. He got hurt again last year. And
41:38Harvey put up RB1 numbers down the
41:40stretch. That's fine. He was the only
41:42show in town during that time. I am
41:44very, very skeptical that would still be
41:46the case even if Wen Dobbins gets
41:48injured to the point where I'm kind of
41:49with you. Coleman could just take the
41:50whole handcuff job.
41:52>> Again, it might be slower, but also for
41:54RJ Harvey, that's kind of why we were
41:56drafting him, too. Uh, he could have
41:58been your RB2 and deep championship
42:00teams despite being so inefficient just
42:03because he gave you 20 touches per game.
42:05They were bad touches, but 20 touches
42:07per game, you're going to plug in
42:08regardless of your situation pretty much
42:10every time. And that's why we're kind of
42:12talking about these running backs
42:13because I do think that is their range
42:15of outcomes despite going later on. All
42:18his good plays coming against the early
42:20season Cowboys and Bengals, too. I'm
42:23skeptical. I'm skeptical, Johnny. All
42:25right, after this range, this is where
42:26we get like the cheap backfields that
42:28are cheap because we don't exactly know
42:29who's going to be the leader. Okay, we
42:31got Pittsburgh. Talked about Denver and
42:33Carolina a little bit already, but
42:34Washington with Shaw Rashad White and
42:36Bill Krosky Merritt. Also Minnesota with
42:38Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones. So those
42:40five teams, John, Pittsburgh, Denver,
42:42Carolina, Washington, Minnesota. Again,
42:44that's a big chunk of the RB3, RB4
42:47range. I got two chips for you. You got
42:49to throw them on any of these running
42:50backs that we mentioned from these back
42:52fields. Who do you want to take?
42:54>> You told me two chips, but since I just
42:56talked about Jonathan Brooks, who I will
42:57I will make it a point to draft in my
42:59home leagues. Um, I'm going to push that
43:02to the side and use two more chips. So,
43:03we're going to give a bonus to everyone
43:04listening. [laughter] Love Jonathan
43:06Brooks of course, but let's start with
43:07Jaylen Warren because Aaron Rodgers did
43:10not lead the league in running back
43:12target rate last year because Kenneth
43:15Gainwell was that good at earning
43:17targets. Aaron Rogers led the league in
43:19running back target rate because he
43:20cannot take hits in his age 40 season,
43:23which is also why he finished with the
43:24quickest time from snap to throw.
43:26Regardless of Mike McCarthy coming in
43:28and increasing the place and most likely
43:31pace and most likely playing more three
43:33wide sets, Aaron Rodgers is who he is in
43:36his final years and he's going to throw
43:38to running backs. And who do you think
43:40now will get those running back targets
43:42considering Rico Dael wasn't even the
43:43passcatching back whenever Chuba Hubard
43:46was healthy? It is going to be Jaylen
43:48Warren. And that's how we get this
43:50mid-round running back and push him up
43:52the board to suddenly be a fourth or
43:53fifth round value. So, I think Jaylen
43:55Warren has outs to lead this team in
43:57touches, but more importantly, always be
43:59viable to flex if we need it in a pinch
44:01because he's the pass catching back from
44:03Aaron Rogers in Pittsburgh. And then the
44:06second one is ugly. And actually, I'm in
44:08the minority of thinking this and that's
44:10okay. I've been in the minority. I've
44:11been right and wrong. Totally fine. But
44:14I do like getting a discount on Jaori
44:16Crosky Meritt again this year. Last year
44:19the ADP got increasingly too high and
44:21the passcatching resume is certainly
44:23concerning. Just nine catches all of
44:25last year. Uh his highest in cross five
44:28seasons I believe it was in college was
44:3013 catches. Not a pass catching back. I
44:32get it. It's something he was reportedly
44:34worked on in camp. But whether that's
44:36true or not, I don't know. The team even
44:37went out and added Rashad White who
44:39probably is the passcatching back. But
44:41in terms of leading the team in carries
44:42and touches, Crosky Merritt again, you
44:44get a two to four round discount in your
44:46home league compared to last year.
44:48Already like that. And he was still a
44:50very explosive player. He was 10th in
44:52his rate of 10 yard carries last year
44:54finishing between Bejan Robinson and
44:56Dererick Henry. If you look at the
44:58numbers, it is those two elite players
45:00and then Jaka Cross Merritt right there.
45:02I'm I'm not even squinting and
45:04suggesting we're going to get more
45:06catches because that's how we really
45:07unlock the upside of Jakory Cross
45:09Merritt. but in an ambiguous backfield
45:11with both players going in similar
45:13ranges. I do know a lot of people want
45:15Rashad White because the pass catching
45:17resume, but Rashad White's touches have
45:19also decreased in every season in Tampa
45:20Bay since 2023 because he could not win
45:23a committee backfield. I'm still going
45:25to cross my fingers and guess that the
45:27player we wanted to draft in the sixth
45:28round last year that we can now get in
45:30the 10th round can win a committee
45:32backfield. So, I like Jaka Crosky
45:35Merritt this year. And it's unfortunate
45:37that the Bill hype got as crazy as it
45:39did because again, it's just all
45:41relative to his ADP. If Bill had come
45:43out of nowhere to the same extent as
45:45like James Robinson, we'd be saying, "Oh
45:47man, what a great rookie season he just
45:48had."
45:50>> Agree. And that's why I didn't get him
45:52in much home leagues because I I fear
45:54that's what's going to happen with
45:54Jerian Price this season is that
45:56everyone's just going to assume this
45:58this rookie that we haven't seen. Thus,
46:00we paint uh an infinite ceiling in our
46:02heads. We haven't just seen it yet is
46:04going to cause the EDP to skyrocket. But
46:07I like discounts. I like discounts a
46:09lot.
46:10>> Cory Cross, Rashad White, one of the
46:12single most important camp battles. to
46:14try to figure out because again guys,
46:16one of these guys, whoever ends up
46:17winning that majority job going to be
46:19moving up the ranks in a hurry. I'm with
46:21you on Jaylen Warren. My thing has just
46:23been like take one of the Steelers
46:24running backs and let's face it, Rico
46:26Dattle usually goes a couple rounds
46:27after. So, I've been more okay getting
46:28that. I think though the nail on the
46:30head, I'm with you 100%. Get running
46:32backs attached to just elderly freaking
46:3542-y old quarterbacks because time and
46:37time again, dude, Leonard Fornette was
46:38catching 70 passes from Tom Brady at the
46:40end of his career. Drew Brees had
46:42everything going on with, you know,
46:43Chimera and just the other guys before
46:45that and now we're seeing it with Aaron
46:46Rogers. Like, man, I run the numbers if
46:49you don't, John. There's got to be just
46:50ridiculous target totals coming from any
46:53quarterback age 38 plus.
46:55>> And I am back in on uh we're talking
46:57about like just running backs in general
46:59that we like in this range. I am back on
47:01in on Washington as a whole. It's not
47:04just JKR who suddenly discounted. Jaden
47:06Daniels as well is one of the bigger
47:08steels. he's going to be drafted after
47:09Drake May and Joe Burrow in your league,
47:12making Jaden Daniels the the target
47:15among those players. Um, also for Terry
47:17McLaren, again, last year without Debo
47:19Samuel on the field, he was targeted on
47:2130% of his routes. He put up career
47:23highs in points per game and endzone
47:24targets in 2024 from Jane Daniels,
47:26assuming everyone's healthy, like these
47:28are the players, Washington's offense,
47:30uh, similar to how we discussed about
47:32Philly's players whose ADPs are just too
47:34low for last year's results that we're
47:36going to ignore. The one problem,
47:38potential problem, I think James Connor
47:40is going to play somewhere. Why not
47:42Washington?
47:44>> That would that would be detrimental.
47:47>> Do you think there's many more running
47:49backs out there? I I would love to see
47:50Joe Mixon holding up a newspaper. I
47:52don't know if that dude is still alive.
47:53Kareem Hunt is technically still a free
47:55agent. He might just be waiting around
47:57to see if Kansas City calls him again.
47:59James Connor is like the only veteran
48:01who I could definitely see changing
48:03teams and just kind of making this a
48:05little bit of a ruckus here because we
48:06have a bunch of wide receivers we're
48:07worried about. I feel like Connor is the
48:09only running back that kind of applause.
48:11>> He's really the only one that comes to
48:12mind unless the Eagles would want to
48:14trade like Will Shipley, but you're
48:16getting into to that range of players
48:18that perhaps have upside and they can
48:20also play special teams, but I'm not too
48:23scared of anyone. Speaking of the
48:25Eagles, Johnny, who's your favorite late
48:27round handcuff, and why is it Tank Bsby
48:29or someone else?
48:30>> Uh Tank Bess makes sense. I I just can't
48:33imagine a situation where we're ever
48:35going to know when to start him in
48:37season long league. So
48:38>> pure pure injury contingent handcuff
48:40>> that's a lot harder. But uh speaking of
48:42injury contingency, there's there's a
48:43lot of good guys this year. Woody Marks
48:45is one we just saw. We just saw after
48:48their buy, he handled 16 and a half
48:50touches per game. Two postseason
48:51contests, 19 touches per game. So
48:53although David Montgomery is there, if
48:55Dave Montgomery is injured, we already
48:57have the evidence that Woody Marks will
48:59be like a low-end RB1 in terms of usage.
49:02So love Woody Marks later on. Jaden
49:04Blue, if you just want to bet against
49:06Javante Williams having a career year,
49:08like it is the kind of age, right, where
49:10I think he's going to be 26 this year
49:12where it's not surprising he broke out
49:14in two years post serious injury. But
49:16again, we haven't seen those numbers
49:17from Javante Williams ever. So maybe
49:19it's just not the same case. Jaden Blue
49:21has reportedly matured this off
49:23seasonason. We'll see if that's a real
49:24thing after, you know, he finally got a
49:26chance mid year last year and showed up
49:28to practice with blue Versace cleats and
49:30got blisters because they weren't the
49:32right cleats to practice in. We'll see
49:33if he's actually matured. But I like
49:35Jaden Blue a lot. Uh Ray Davis,
49:37>> this is the one guy in that Sorry, John,
49:39real quick. Like
49:40>> you're good.
49:40>> Phil Mafa, I know Malik Davis actually
49:42was the backup during the second half of
49:44last season. That's like earlier when I
49:45was starting to go through his deaf
49:46choice. I was like, really? We're doing
49:47the Jaden Blue thing again. even though
49:49Malik Davis had it. But if I do look at
49:52the guys behind Javvante and I try to
49:54see like who actually could maybe carve
49:55out like maybe not a 1B role but earn a
49:59legit change of pace role like it's
50:01definitely Blue with some of the pass
50:02catching and explosiveness he brings to
50:04the table.
50:05>> Uh I and that's why I like Jaden Blue.
50:07Ray Davis is another one because a lot
50:09of times what happens when you're
50:10looking at contingency players, a lot of
50:12people think just because let's say
50:13Justice Hill for example plays touches
50:16when their starter is healthy that means
50:19that is the player who takes over. That
50:20is not at all the case whatsoever. Uh
50:23that includes Ray Davis. Like Ty Johnson
50:24has only gotten double digit touches for
50:26Buffalo two times in his career with the
50:28Bills. Ray Davis though the one time in
50:31the last two years that James Cook was
50:32injured. Ray Davis 20 touches 150 yards
50:35from scrimmage and a touchdown. Like
50:36that's the guy who can't get on the
50:38field because he is James Cook. So when
50:40James Cook is out, it's not Tai Johnson,
50:42the satellite role player. It is Ray
50:44Davis who gets all the touches. So I
50:47still like grabbing Ray Davis and
50:48stashing him. And then for for the
50:50reason I mentioned in regression in the
50:52running game in Las Vegas, it does seem
50:54like Mike Washington is also uh Ashton
50:57Genty's direct backup. So I'll probably
51:00stash Mike Washington in deeper leagues,
51:02too. But in season long leagues, recall
51:04like you have to actually look at your
51:05roster and be wary that you cannot use
51:08these guys for six weeks probably. Like
51:10they just sit there and the way it works
51:12out is that the moment you scratch them,
51:15that's when they're going to start the
51:16next week. But don't worry about that.
51:18You still have to then put them at the
51:19end of your bench because you understand
51:20they can win your leagues if they ever
51:22play. And I feel like John, if I am
51:24going more zero RB where my first
51:26running back is, you know, god forbid a
51:28DeAndre Swift or, you know, in your
51:29nightmare, someone like Jadarian Price,
51:31that would probably dissuade me from
51:33wanting to have guys like Pacheco and
51:35Tank Bigsby and Mike Washington on my
51:36bench because I'm going to be needing to
51:38potentially tap into these guys sooner
51:39rather than later because I don't
51:41actually love my, you know, initial
51:42death at the position. So maybe that's
51:44when a Kenneth Gamewell or a Woody Mars
51:46or a Jonathan Brooks becomes even more
51:47appealing. Whereas, if I do take Saquon
51:50Barkley and Ashen Genty out the turn,
51:52you know, we got our two running backs.
51:54We're feeling great about it. I'm going
51:55to load up on other positions for the
51:56majority of the draft, that's probably
51:58when I'm more so inclined to take some
51:59of these guys where no, we're not going
52:01to get the week-toeek utility of a Woody
52:03Marks necessarily, but the best handcuff
52:06upside might be even higher.
52:09Agree. And that's kind of why my draft
52:12plan changes not only every year, but
52:15really based on the league. I have I
52:16have an idea of where I want to go. Last
52:19year I wanted to live in the Jawan
52:21Jennings Ricky Pieraw range of wide
52:23receivers for example because I
52:25understood like that tier can win your
52:27league and a lot of those wide receivers
52:28did ultimately break out. Um and this
52:31year like I said it's the third tier of
52:33wide receivers I really want to to live
52:34in. Not to mention Brock Bowers at the
52:36first second round turn since last year
52:39Trey McBride was the value you should
52:41have picked over Bowowers because he's
52:42going a full round after Bowowers in
52:44your league. this year they're they're
52:45neck and neck. Thus, we want Bowowers
52:48and we want to fade Trey McBride.
52:50>> So, with that in mind, John, take me to
52:51our second to last question here. And
52:53that was again, you kind of already
52:54answered this, so you don't have a
52:56specific like year-to-year running back
52:58strategy you typically lean on, which I
52:59think makes sense having a quarterback
53:01more late round strategy. I think that
53:03is more easy to apply year-over-year.
53:05So, looking at 2026 as things stand
53:07right now, from what you're describing,
53:09it sounds like this might be the hero RB
53:12year for you. I believe so. Again, I
53:15want to live in the back of the draft
53:16with Ashton Genty and Saquon Barkley in
53:18particular, maybe even both of them, and
53:20then hammer wide receiver, find out
53:23which late round tight end I want the
53:24most. Last year, I was only in on Tucker
53:26Craft, Jake Ferguson, and Dallas
53:28Goddard. Dallas Goddard and Kyle Pittz
53:30this year. I I think I'm going to live
53:31in that range if I miss out on Brock
53:33Bowers and Coloulston Lovelin. Uh so,
53:35yeah, I think hero RB is the way I'm
53:37going to go, but again, I'm very
53:38open-minded to robust. I just don't
53:41think especially in home league because
53:43baseball, you've talked about this on
53:45past shows, I know you've written about
53:46it, quarterback ADP for everyone just
53:48tuning into baseball leagues, has surged
53:50to exponential heights this year. Uh
53:52record-breaking that the QB2s, like the
53:54QB 20 through 26 are being drafted like,
53:57you know, in the 13th round, and by that
53:58time, it's only third stringers left.
54:01That's not going to happen in home
54:02leagues at all. Home leagues are still
54:03going to chase running backs heavily.
54:05And so rather than avoiding that run, I
54:07do want to make sure I I sandwich myself
54:09in between that run and get at least one
54:11strong one and then start picking apart
54:13other positions from there.
54:15>> I do think there's a scenario if you're
54:17kind of in the middle of round one or
54:19more of a zero approach makes sense. You
54:21know, you get your Amra St. Brown,
54:23Justin Jefferson, you get Brock Bowers
54:25in round two. Maybe you don't love the
54:26options in round three. So you just say,
54:28"Hey, I'm going to take these great, you
54:29know, wide receivers or even a Josh
54:31Allen from there." Then more of a zero
54:32method makes sense. But no, I'm with
54:34you, man. Just with more and more of the
54:36builds I've been trying to practice,
54:38getting through mocks and best baseball
54:39lineups and even some of the reddraft
54:40leagues I've gotten in early, I just
54:42feel like getting that one running back
54:44to build around and then having the rest
54:46of your running back room just to figure
54:47out that RB2 spot, John, like that's
54:49kind of where I'm coming from here. I
54:51feel like it's the best of both worlds
54:52where like it's not obviously I feel
54:54best for my running back room if I'm
54:55taking two in the first two rounds, but
54:57like exactly what you said and that's I
54:59think a sign of a very smart individual
55:01and fantasy analyst, bro. But like it's
55:02when a running back question has to
55:05include the other positions because
55:06we're not just trying to, you know,
55:08singularly pick out like, oh yeah, I
55:09think Ashen Genty is gonna have a really
55:11good year. It's can I draft Ashen Genty
55:13and get that really good year while not
55:15falling behind other positions and
55:16building the best overall roster. So
55:18that's kind of where I'm at with your
55:19RB. Yes, I think it's good for the RBs,
55:21but it's also, man, allowing us to go
55:23after that Brock Bowers potentially and
55:25load up on those wide receivers where
55:27I'm with you, bro. It almost makes me
55:29want to be in auction leagues more than
55:30ever cuz I just want to draft like each
55:32of these wide receivers 18 through 25.
55:35>> Like in home leagues, I promise this
55:36situation going to rise where everyone's
55:38looking at the board of players
55:40available and it's the guys we
55:41mentioned, right? RJ Harvey, Tony Paul
55:43or Chuba Hubard. But also on the board
55:45at that time are Jaylen Herz, our god
55:48inside the five and Mike Evans are god
55:50of touchdowns. Like imagine ever
55:53drafting that tier of running backs
55:54whenever those two winning players are
55:57right there. you're not going to do it
55:58if you want to win your league. So, you
56:00just have to be very wary and that's why
56:02I'm pretty much making the cut off
56:04Kairen Williams and then I'm going to
56:05dance around and go from there.
56:07>> And that's why it can be helpful, you
56:09know, after you finish a draft or a mock
56:10or whatever, like go back and look at
56:12that board and just kind of see where
56:13those pockets of players you really like
56:14are. I'm with you. Those wide receivers,
56:16man, rounds even kind of four through
56:18seven where you should be playing
56:19catch-up at running back if you're going
56:21more of a zero strategy. Very, very
56:23tough passes there. But John, great
56:25stuff. Before you get out of here
56:26though, I know you're a man who travels
56:28all around the world and especially
56:29America. So, I want you to give the
56:31viewers, if not three, at least one or
56:33two most underrated vacation spots in
56:36continental America.
56:38>> Three spots in America. And underrated
56:42means you're going to hate these
56:43answers, by the way. Yeah. Uh, so I'll
56:45count down from three to one.
56:46>> Three, New Orleans. I'm a big fan, which
56:50is why I've I've grown so fond and proud
56:53of the city of Chicago. I'm a big fan
56:55when any stature of life can have what
56:57they want, like 75 cent tacos or $8
57:00tacos. Uh New Orleans, as you saw when
57:03you were there for the Super Bowl, Ian,
57:05New Orleans is a culture that brings
57:07like Texas oil money and uh a poverty
57:12situation together for everyone to have
57:14a lifestyle. And New Orleans like
57:17squeezes out of you that stature
57:20regardless of where you sit in the
57:22economy. So, I love that everyone can
57:24just get together and Greg Olsen can be
57:26on a run right next to us while we're
57:28drinking at 10:00 a.m. Like, I I love
57:30that about cities. So, New Orleans, I
57:32think everyone should go to, especially
57:33because I'm a big food guy. Uh, some of
57:35the best food in the entire country.
57:36Number two, because again, underrated,
57:38so you're going to hate these answers. I
57:40think Coler, Wisconsin, or Wisconsin in
57:42general around like the Dells is a
57:45beautiful area. Wisconsin, especially in
57:47the spring and summer, is extremely
57:50green and has a cheap cost of living.
57:53Thus, like, you know, your beers are $2
57:54to $4, right? But the outdoors are, like
57:58I said, ecstatic and extremely green and
58:01vibrant and beautiful. Not to mention
58:03that that's when it's warm. I understand
58:05you want to leave Wisconsin when the
58:06winter when it's when it's horrible and
58:08it's dark by 400 pm for six months. But
58:11uh I'm going to say Coler Wisconsin
58:13because the goth there, but honestly
58:15even Milwaukee is so underrated in the
58:18spring and summer. And then finally what
58:20I tell everyone is the most underrated
58:22city in America and everyone's
58:24disgusted. It is Cleveland, Ohio.
58:27Cleveland, Ohio is one of the best
58:29cities in the country. Uh regardless of
58:32whether you like food, nightife, staying
58:35in, going outdoors, there's rivers
58:37there. There's a giant lake there. The
58:38Browns play lakeside. I know you don't
58:40know because we don't watch Browns
58:41games, but honestly, Cleveland has
58:44everything you would want. I understand
58:46in the winter it gets miserable and it
58:50is a little it can feel a little bit
58:52lonely because it is a smaller
58:53population still but I think the town of
58:55Cleveland despite being small for a
58:57metropolitan uh is my kind of people and
59:00the kind of person I want to be. So I
59:02think Cleveland is an incredible place.
59:05>> You see John, I had to bring you on the
59:06show for you to preach the Ohio
59:08propaganda because no one's going to
59:09believe me if I try to tell them
59:10Cleveland's cool. I am the only person
59:12knowingly that says I like Ohio who's
59:15not from Ohio. I love Ohio.
59:17>> Jok Noah somewhere shaking his head, but
59:19I'm with you, man. Like, would I want to
59:20spend a week in Cleveland? Probably not.
59:22But you can have a hell of a night or
59:23two there, guys. Four Street is a lot of
59:25fun. Shout out to Cordelia. Amazing
59:28burgers and just food overall there.
59:30Starting to get Apparently the Michelin
59:31star people are finally working their
59:32way through Ohio. So maybe that'll give
59:34us some better national attention going
59:36on there. Yeah, man. Got a casino down
59:38there. multiple sports teams varying in
59:40how good they are. I get it. But yeah,
59:44>> Florida is the hell space of America.
59:45Like imagine ever wanting to go to
59:47Florida over Ohio. No chance. You the
59:50propaganda that the public has told me
59:53that's wrong. Like do not listen. Ohio's
59:55better than Florida.
59:56>> Bro, I'm with you. We're like nothing is
59:57better than actually getting your
59:59receipt and being like, "Oh, that did
1:00:01they get everything? Is that
1:00:02affordable?" Because that's when I went
1:00:03to Milwaukee for the first time. That
1:00:04was my thought, too. It was like, "Oh, I
1:00:07had a nice meal. I got beer as much as I
1:00:09wanted to and I'm pleased with the
1:00:10receipt.
1:00:12>> The kind of places that you can pay for
1:00:13the group and not sweat it out. Yeah,
1:00:16>> maybe a little more expensive down there
1:00:17by the Bay, but New Orleans is still
1:00:19awesome. If you guys do make it down
1:00:20there, make sure you pay your respects
1:00:22to our GOAT Sigman Bloom and the rest of
1:00:24New Orleans natives. But Johnny
1:00:26Football, fantastic stuff at notJ Dagel
1:00:29on Twitter. I see you still haven't
1:00:30found a way to get the actual Jay Dagel
1:00:32Twitter handle there. I appreciate
1:00:34holding out. Obviously, you and the
1:00:36entire established run team doing some
1:00:38sweet stuff, man. Hell yeah.
1:00:40>> I appreciate it. Thank you. And again,
1:00:42everything's coming out at establish.com
1:00:44right now. I've taken over all the team
1:00:46previews, which will all be posted by
1:00:47the time training camps open Saturday
1:00:50because it's the time of the year where
1:00:51everyone is tuning back in and listening
1:00:54to this show.
1:00:56>> We appreciate you guys listening in to
1:00:58this show. If you like the show, please
1:00:59like the show. Make sure you guys go
1:01:00support all of John's work over at ETR
1:01:02as well. So, thank you guys again.
1:01:04training camp on the way. We'll be back
1:01:06next week with some wide receiver
1:01:08content, a little bit of tight end DST
1:01:09stuff after that, and then strictly
1:01:11league wedding hopefully content as we
1:01:14get you guys into August and get you
1:01:16ready. So, appreciate you guys again for
1:01:17John. I'm Ian. Thanks again for tuning
1:01:19in. Until next time, take care
1:01:20everybody.

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