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0:00than us today.
0:01>> Uh I believe so she was she did um
0:04recommend adding the minutes from the
0:07last two meetings which I didn't add
0:09previous three but as far as I'm aware
0:11she should be joining. I just don't know
0:13if she'll be joining in person or on
0:15Zoom.
0:19>> And Joseph is joining right?
0:22>> Yep. I'm on. All right.
0:37Good.
0:50Does anybody want to text Julia to see
0:52if she is going to join the meeting?
0:54Otherwise, I get to chair.
1:02Have you talked to Julia at all? Did she
1:04respond that she's going to be Hector?
1:06Did Julia respond that she was going to
1:08be
1:10at?
1:11>> I thought so.
1:14I thought we got an email back, Miranda,
1:16but I wasn't quite sure. I can't
1:18remember off the top of my head.
1:20>> Uh, she did send me an email to update
1:22the agenda and add the minutes from the
1:24previous two meetings. Um,
1:29okay. Awesome. Great. We weren't sure if
1:31you were joining on Zoom or in person.
1:33We'll wait like two minutes.
1:40>> Yes, of course. Okay. Awesome. We will
1:43see you here then. Okay. Awesome.
1:45Bye-bye.
1:48>> She's outside. She's
1:50>> Oh, good.
1:50>> She's on her way.
1:52>> Okay.
1:53Thank you. Uhhuh. Any word from Gati?
1:58>> Nope. And we knew that she got she got
2:00it on the email.
2:02>> Yeah.
2:06>> Has she ever been at any meetings?
2:09>> Um
2:10>> I was asking she wasn't she wasn't
2:12contacted. She was contacted for this
2:14one.
2:14>> I don't know. She mean unexcused. She
2:17off
2:17>> she hasn't been unexcused.
2:19>> She has not been at any of meetings.
2:21>> But she hasn't been unexcused.
2:23What's the definition of unexp
3:34water, Maria.
3:36>> Thank you.
3:44I heard you coming. Making kinds of
3:46noise as I go.
3:49>> Where do you think I should sit?
3:51>> The head.
3:53>> Is this head enough? You want that head?
3:55>> Yeah.
3:55>> I don't care.
3:58>> I'm okay. Whichever place I'm going, I
4:00get. So, hello everyone.
4:02>> Hi.
4:03>> We have someone two people on the phone.
4:05There's one Joe.
4:06>> Uh, four. Joe,
4:09>> Joseph. Joseph.
4:10>> Yeah. Joseph, Cody, and Hector's.
4:14>> Oh, is this one for me?
4:16>> Oh, that one's actually open, but I can
4:18grab one of these.
4:20>> Yes. Yes, you may.
4:21>> Okay. Well, here. Let's call this baby
4:25order. Sorry that I'm late.
4:28>> 15 minutes seems to turn into to about
4:32another 10.
4:33>> Yeah, [laughter]
4:34kind of move faster faster. Anyhow, so
4:38um our agenda I read it online
4:43and I know we have some questions. Uh I
4:46think had some and uh do you want to
4:49just do a roll call for us?
4:53>> Yes.
4:56>> Okay. Karen here
5:00is on Zoom.
5:04Kathy
5:05>> here.
5:08Gabby, I didn't receive an email. Um, I
5:12don't know if she emailed you, Hector,
5:14by chance to get an excused absence.
5:17>> No.
5:19>> Okay.
5:20>> I'll mark that as unexcused.
5:22>> Excused. I think so.
5:23>> Maria,
5:30>> present on Zoom.
5:33>> Deputy clerk, I am present.
5:36Deputy Mayor Julia Hart,
5:38>> present.
5:40>> And then Hector is present on Zoom as
5:42well.
5:43>> Hi, Hector. I didn't know if you're
5:44going to be here or not.
5:46>> Yeah,
5:47>> you got your training going.
5:50>> Yep.
5:51>> Okay. [snorts] Well, do well in that.
5:54Help us out with this so we can send it
5:56>> to the uh planning commission tonight.
5:59Is tonight. Tonight we're sending it to
6:01the planning commission.
6:03>> Next week. Oh, next week. Next 13th.
6:06>> On the 13th. Okay.
6:11>> So,
6:13pardon
6:14the
6:16>> back. Is it the 17th or the 13th?
6:18>> I believe it's the
6:19>> 13th.
6:20>> It's the 13th.
6:21>> The 13th
6:22>> when we're sending this to the uh uh
6:26>> planning
6:27>> planning commission.
6:30And then after that they'll recommend
6:33may make some changes may make you know
6:35their own look at it and uh get us back
6:40to
6:41So Catt's the only one who
6:49else
6:52>> Miranda.
6:52>> Miranda.
6:53>> Yes.
6:54>> Miranda is a miracle one. Trust me.
6:57>> Okay. So, what we're looking at next, I
7:01believe Joseph is sent us out.
7:05Um, is this our bound version?
7:09Chapter nine.
7:11We have one that's bound, right? We got
7:14at the 16th reading.
7:18Oh, those are
7:19>> Yeah, I I believe I don't know if it was
7:21bound or or Yeah, there's
7:25um there were edits proposed by Maria
7:30that were added into the draft as track
7:33changes.
7:34>> Okay,
7:35>> those were briefly reviewed at the
7:37previous meeting, but the committee
7:39wanted more time to look them over and
7:42so we scheduled this meeting to
7:44>> That's why we're having this meeting.
7:45Okay. So, that's the one we're looking
7:48at and we're not looking at Sorry to be
7:53just a little. I missed the last
7:56meeting. So, I can message you,
8:00but I did see the minutes. So, the
8:02minutes uh
8:06are
8:09um Did anybody have any objections to
8:11the minutes? You should approve those
8:13something.
8:16Did everybody read the
8:19last name?
8:25>> Isn't this what we want?
8:27>> Joseph, is this what we want?
8:29>> Oh, Cotty's here.
8:31>> Yeah, that's that should be the most
8:34recent.
8:35>> The most recent.
8:37>> Yes, I've heard those.
8:38>> Yes.
8:39>> Oh, yeah.
8:39>> That's why it's here. [clears throat]
8:43>> Thank you very much. Okay. So, um let's
8:47see. I'm asking if everyone has read the
8:49minutes so we can approve the minutes of
8:51the I think there are two in there for
8:52the last two meetings.
8:55>> I don't think there was anything. When I
8:57looked at it, didn't look like there was
8:59anything out of order.
9:03>> Okay. So, are we one at a time or both?
9:06>> Let's just do them both at the same
9:08time. So I move to accept the minutes
9:11for August 18th and September 15th.
9:17>> I second it.
9:19>> Okay. Does that uh one
9:22>> Yes.
9:22>> Okay. And what was the other date of
9:24Sorry. So, August 18th and September
9:2815th
9:28>> 15th minutes and it got a motion uh and
9:35seconded to approve the meeting minutes
9:37of August 19th and 18th, excuse me, and
9:40September 15th. Um, is there any uh
9:44discussion on those minutes?
9:47>> No.
9:48>> If not, I'll entertain a motion to
9:51approve the minutes. And let's I don't
9:53think we need to do roll call. I think
9:55we can just go all I
9:58>> I
9:59>> I
9:59>> I
10:00>> I.
10:02>> One more voice.
10:05>> Okay.
10:06>> I I Sorry, I'm trying to get there. I
10:09>> I Okay. Okay. So, the minutes are
10:11approved.
10:13Okay. Thank you everyone.
10:19Okay.
10:22Now that Oh,
10:24thank you. So, now we're reviewing this
10:27is uh to be considered our final copy.
10:30Although I noticed although I noticed
10:32that an email from both parent and from
10:37uh Maria that might indicate um
10:42uh
10:45switch here, excuse me.
10:49Um
10:51another some possible changes, some
10:54possible discussion.
10:56>> So, I'm going to take you guys one at a
10:58time. I saw your email to me first. So,
11:01I'm going to let you talk first.
11:03>> Yeah. I think um I don't think it's fair
11:05to this committee that we are emailed at
11:0710:00 at night to put additional bulls
11:10and things in this draft when we've had
11:13a year to develop this and none of us
11:15have had the time. Well, I don't have
11:16the time to dive into it. I mean, I'm
11:18working today and so at 10:00 at night,
11:21Joseph, if you ever got them and so why
11:24is this being done at night when a lot
11:25of the things are already being done by
11:27other agencies, Department of Ecology,
11:29and there's other agencies monitoring
11:31things? The other thing is I don't think
11:34agriculture should be um solicited and
11:37pointed out directly. A lot of these
11:40accusations don't have any science
11:41behind them. You're just guessing and
11:44you're trying to establish an agenda.
11:47But the biggest thing is we were our
11:50committee had a goal to do to do four
11:54things. We're supposed to evaluate
11:56climate resilience for wildfire,
12:00drought,
12:01etc. Well, those things we have
12:04developed the plan. These are outside of
12:06what we're supposed to do. And the other
12:08thing is the biggest thing is Julia, do
12:11the citizens of Sunnyside want to pay
12:14for additional monitoring and um looking
12:17into planning and development for
12:19different kinds of industries. Is that
12:21what the city wants to do when they
12:22already have that in place with
12:24department of ecology and when they go
12:26through the planning and sea? So I think
12:29a lot of this is redundant already being
12:31done and I don't I don't think it
12:33fulfills our original goals.
12:38And our another purpose is we were not
12:41here to launch a new platform and a
12:45mission for other agencies like Ella or
12:48whatever to go after [clears throat]
12:50>> a
12:52>> whichever. Go ahead.
12:53>> Whatever.
12:54>> No, it's not whichever. It's a
12:56>> that wasn't our mission. Our mission was
12:58to for the city of Sunnyside and to do
13:01exactly what was required under Joseph's
13:04guidelines, but not to go outside the
13:07scope and try to um have points of how
13:11we should have economic development done
13:13in the city. That's not even what we're
13:15about here. That's another committee
13:17which already has and I was on that one
13:19too. So anyway, that's that's how I
13:22feel.
13:22>> Well, there's an intersection between
13:23economic development and climate
13:25resiliency. So, so can I have the floor?
13:28>> So, did you have something else to
13:30>> Well, I'm No, I'm just saying that a lot
13:32of these things are already being done
13:34with. I think all of them are being done
13:35with Department of Ecology, um,
13:38Department of Egg, all these things are
13:40being monitored and the city right now
13:43has a burden to have money to do
13:45everything and fix. But right now, this
13:48is specifically pointing at egg and
13:51manure and whoever contributes to manure
13:53without addressing our sewage system,
13:55which is leaking and non-compliant,
13:56which goes right in the river. So, I
13:58mean, I think we're opening up a can of
14:00worms for ourselves here, and I don't
14:01feel like that was the purpose that we
14:03had.
14:04>> Okay.
14:05>> And do we have money to do additional
14:07testing that's already being done by
14:09other state agencies?
14:11>> Let's let's hang on to those um those
14:14points. And then I would like to hear
14:16from uh does anybody have any um Oh, I'm
14:21sorry. I was going to acknowledge you
14:23next, Maria. So,
14:26>> Julia, I have something.
14:28>> Okay, Juan. I I'd already recognized
14:30Maria first, but then I'll and then
14:33can you hang on?
14:34>> Yes.
14:35>> Hold that thought. Okay, Maria. So,
14:39first of all, yes, I have an agenda. My
14:41agenda is climate resiliency. My agenda
14:44is a safe community for residents and
14:46for our youth. Okay, that's my agenda.
14:49Um whether I'm here as an individual
14:50person or as somebody who uh leads an
14:54organization, it's all about
14:56environmental justice and climate
14:57resiliency. Second of all, you address
15:00like this is stuff that I submitted late
15:03last night. Yes, I submitted late late
15:05last night because that's what I had the
15:06time to finally get to it because
15:09I feel like I am doing HLA's job because
15:12HLA should have been a much more it
15:14should have been a much more thorough
15:16climate resiliency plan which goes into
15:18the comprehensive plan. We don't want a
15:22weak climate resilience plan given the
15:25environmental factors and impact that
15:28are affecting residents and students
15:30whether they're outside in the county
15:32and then coming into the in the city
15:34limits or or vice versa. So, um the
15:39issue that you first took up was that I
15:41submitted this too late. It is late
15:45because that's when I had the time to do
15:46it. Okay. before this meeting. I don't
15:49think that what I'm asking to be a part
15:51of the element the climate element is is
15:55one unrelated especially when you talk
15:56about economic development because
15:58economic development intersects with
16:00environment. When you talk about
16:03economic development whether that is you
16:05know agriculture whether that is
16:08technology it all intersects with
16:10environmental health or harm. Okay. So
16:14it needs to be addressed in climate
16:16resiliency and in this plan as a part of
16:18the comprehensive plan. [laughter]
16:20Uh third, none of the goals that I've
16:24sub submitted whether it was the last
16:26time around or this time around is
16:27unreasonable. There is nothing
16:29unreasonable about it. So when you talk
16:32about economic development language um
16:35which lack implementation policies,
16:39I felt like that needed to be covered.
16:40And there's again there's nothing at
16:43odds principally with the city or with
16:47residents or even with industry. It
16:48shouldn't be at odds. There's nothing
16:50within the language that
16:54basically disparages
16:58outright any industry. If an industry is
17:02going to operate, they should operate
17:03responsibly within a community. Period.
17:06So I mean Karen, come on. You come from
17:08a dairy and a dairy cable operation.
17:11>> I got a dairy.
17:12>> But you you represent those industries.
17:14>> I stop. I um
17:17>> point of order. Point of order. She's
17:18interrupting me.
17:20>> Um
17:22but please point of order.
17:23>> Yes. Point of order. And the order is uh
17:25please acknowledge she's representing
17:27egg. Um so
17:30>> there you go. Special interest.
17:32>> Would you would you would you
17:33>> There is a special interest there.
17:35>> Continue.
17:35>> Yes. So um none of these goals are um
17:41unreasonable to the era given g given
17:43the fact that we deal with these
17:46environmental impacts. You you had
17:48mentioned earlier Karen that there is no
17:51science behind any of this. Everything
17:52we work is science-based. Everything
17:54that we work with is science-based.
17:56>> We work with friends of hopes which is a
17:59group of scientists. We work with the
18:00University of Washington. We work with
18:01Central Washington University. We work
18:03with John Hopkins. There are plenty of
18:05studies that point to all of the
18:07environmental harms that are exist that
18:09exist here. Whether it's nitrates,
18:10whether it's particulate matter 2.5
18:13because of fecal matter flowing through
18:14the air through the by wind, all of it
18:17is backed by science. All of it. Now,
18:20whether or not you want to be a science
18:21denier, you know, that's that's a whole
18:23other topic. I I have no control over
18:26that. But what I can try to influence is
18:30dealing with the facts as they pertain
18:33to Sunnyside. And so again, none of
18:36these are out of the ordinary. None of
18:38these are uncalled for. None of these
18:40are um are
18:45not related to what needs to be
18:47addressed here in Sunnyside. So um the
18:51the points I provided were again
18:53economic development language that
18:55lacked implementation policies. Um the
18:59fact that one of the goals the goals
19:01doesn't specifically
19:03um consider the impact of concentrated
19:07animal feeding operations and dairies
19:09because no matter whether or not they're
19:10in the county they are affecting water
19:13supply they affect the air quality. So
19:16it needs to be addressed. there's still
19:18no account there's no clear
19:20accountability mechanism for sunny side
19:22um when agencies fail to act on specific
19:26environmental harms and we see that all
19:29throughout the Laura Valley where even
19:31like the department of ecology
19:32department of health even the Yakma
19:34health district Yakma regional clean air
19:36agency are hands off on a lot of these
19:39issues um number four being cumulative
19:42impact review that you know which needs
19:45to be strengthened in the in the CE -15
19:49goals. Um, and then of course what
19:53Sunnyside really needs to do is start
19:56mapping the environmental burdens. We
19:59need to start documenting
20:02at at the official city level what harms
20:06are are
20:08currently
20:11um creating harms for the residents,
20:12whether it's air pollution and what
20:15harms exist right outside the city
20:17limits that affect
20:20everybody within city limits like again
20:22air like contaminated water. Um, we know
20:25that the EPA has already determined that
20:27over with the dairy cluster in outlook
20:30and you can look this up in the EPA
20:32website itself. This is the EPA saying
20:34this that within you know several years
20:37because of the dairy cluster and all the
20:38contamination of water in that area of
20:41of over 300 uh private wells that we can
20:45expect eventually to see Granger
20:47impacted by nitrates their municipal
20:49system because it's downgradient from
20:53the dairy cluster. These are not
20:55hypotheses. These are not theory. This
20:57is not Mia's opinion. These are facts
21:00based on scientific work and scientific
21:03studies. So, um I'm asking this
21:07committee to adopt all of the proposed
21:12um goals that I provided
21:16by the last meeting by and and this and
21:19then last night because none of it is
21:21unreasonable. None of it.
21:25>> Um one
21:27second. Let me turn this off.
21:28>> Okay,
21:30this market is an in person now.
21:35>> Um, Karen, if you have a question.
21:38>> Yes. Um, as far as Maria's point about
21:41addressing water quality and air in
21:43particular and department of quality is
21:46already doing that. the department of
21:48egg is already doing that since I am I
21:50operate
21:52um different ranches and cal I'm well
21:54aware of what the requirements are and
21:56as as far as well testing that's already
21:59being done. She also said that there
22:01should be mapping done by the city. Does
22:03the city have the resources and the
22:06personnel to do that and why is that
22:09necessary when we have other state
22:11agencies already doing that? And as far
22:15as the economic um point of this whole
22:17thing,
22:19we were never told to do economic
22:22impacts. We addressed it under the four
22:24things we're told to look at drought,
22:26fire, water, uh water. We addressed how
22:30the economic hardships would happen with
22:34those things happening in that climate
22:35change.
22:36>> But we don't need to go outside and
22:38recommend what kind of jobs come in this
22:40city. And I don't know if Maria wants to
22:42acknowledge this, but our city of
22:44Sunnyside is based on agriculture. That
22:47is why we're here. That's why my
22:49grandparents came from another country
22:50here. We started egg and we are based on
22:53egg.
22:54>> So to attack egg unnecessarily and want
22:57the city to do more monitoring, I think
22:59that's out of the scope of what this
23:01committee was required to do.
23:03>> Nobody is attacking egg.
23:05>> Nobody's attacking egg. We want
23:06responsibility coming from any industry
23:09that resides within Yak.
23:10>> But you don't just say that in here. You
23:12mentioned specifically dairies. You had
23:15caff you are attacking dairies and caffe
23:21that they are responsible for some of
23:23the arms.
23:24>> Everybody is responsible. The teach that
23:26all of them everybody
23:29teachers schools wherever they're
23:31everybody's responsible for helping the
23:33environment here.
23:35>> Well, that's true. And also the septic
23:37system as a sewage plant for Sunnyside
23:39that goes right into the river. We need
23:41to deal with that. But you're still
23:43picking on egg all the time.
23:44>> Okay, that is only
23:48areing the nitrates.
23:49>> Excuse me, guys. Okay,
23:51>> it's already here before the egg even
23:53came in.
23:53>> Okay, let's let's uh Juan would like to
23:56have a comment. So, one, you came all
23:59the way here. So,
24:01>> I was brought over here.
24:02>> Opportunity. Uh there's two things I
24:05want to mention. The first is the
24:07comments by one of the members over a
24:09certain individual and an organization.
24:12Um I think they're uncalled for. I think
24:14they're very unprofessional. Um time and
24:17time again after several meetings u a
24:21particular person in this group attacks
24:24another individual and their
24:27organization
24:29with rhetoric. That's [clears throat]
24:31her personal opinion and she's entitled
24:32to it. it doesn't belong here.
24:35>> Okay. All right.
24:36>> Secondly,
24:37>> two things.
24:38>> Um
24:40I believe the changes that are want are
24:43going to be implemented
24:45or scheduled to be that were scheduled
24:46to be in here regardless of what what
24:49the deadline was are important because
24:52this isn't a catchall for the county.
24:55We're trying to
24:57um
24:58>> Joseph, correct me if I'm wrong. We are
25:01trying to make the blueprint for our
25:03community of what we want to see moving
25:05forward.
25:08>> So yes, so a lot of the the the points
25:10that Maria made are valid
25:13>> because they they do come from an
25:15environmental standpoint.
25:20>> them being in that document gives us um
25:23the ability to expand on that. It
25:26doesn't mean it's going to happen right
25:27now, but it's in there as as our our
25:31main frame.
25:33>> That's that's I think that's a really
25:35good point. Um there's Did somebody else
25:36have a question? Was there a hand up
25:38back?
25:38>> That was it.
25:39>> That was anybody.
25:41>> Okay, guys, I heard some talking. So, um
25:43Joseph, can you kind of uh maybe help us
25:46uh navigate this a little bit?
25:50You there? Uh
25:52can you hear me?
25:53>> I see you. Okay, there you go. Yeah. So,
25:56as I mentioned previously, you know, the
25:59the draft was provided at the last
26:01meeting with the track changes um that
26:04were presented u by Maria via Maria's
26:09comments.
26:10>> The track changes that are in the draft
26:13or from the initial comments. Uh the
26:16most recent ones are not in there, but
26:19everything is up for discussion. Um to
26:24to look at the new comments though, I
26:27one of the discussion points about the
26:30mapping. I I can't speak for Sunnyside's
26:34finances, but the development and
26:36establishment of that type of mapping
26:39software is is a big effort. I don't
26:43know that the city has the staffing or
26:46personnel to undertake that. Um it's
26:49also unclear from the way the policy is
26:52written if this is um you know something
26:57that the city is going to start
26:59collecting data on uh or pulling data
27:03from all the different sources that are
27:05collecting it already. So, I'm I'm a
27:08little concerned with the h how
27:11something like that would be implemented
27:14at the city level.
27:16>> Okay. Before I before I respond to you,
27:18um one of the things um that that Juan
27:21just said to and I think we should keep
27:23this in mind, this is a draft. This is
27:26something we're assuming to become part
27:28of the city's comprehensive plan. Some
27:31of these things will happen right away.
27:34Some of them may be already in place. Uh
27:37but it's a it's a it's a as you called
27:40it a blueprint,
27:41>> right?
27:42>> And and there's nothing to say because
27:44we do we do changes to the comprehensive
27:47plan. How many every how often do we do
27:50that, Joseph? It seems like a every few
27:52years we update.
27:54>> Well, these broad updates uh these
27:57broader updates are part of a 10-year
27:59cycle, but the comp plan itself can be
28:03re uh reviewed and amended on an annual
28:07basis.
28:08>> Okay. So, if if some of the things that
28:12that um I'm just I'm just spitballing
28:15here. So, some of the things that were
28:17in the most recent um additions from uh
28:22Ms. Hernandez. Um,
28:25do
28:27we should look those over or should we
28:29hang on to those because I'm really
28:30concerned about getting the draft this
28:33draft approved for the planning
28:35commission and then we can um hang on to
28:39these others because we we will be
28:41looking at because we still have to look
28:44at something else. I think we want to
28:46look at data data data collection
28:48centers. that's something we're going to
28:50I don't know how that'll have an impact
28:52on the climate as well, but in any case,
28:54that could be something we can look
28:55forward to doing in the next year. Um, I
28:58kind of thought we'd be done as in
29:00December, but it looks like this is
29:02going this particular committee could
29:03continue to work um as part of the
29:07comprehensive plan uh development. Is do
29:10you think that that's possible, Joseph?
29:13>> Well, that would require an update to
29:15your municipal code. I had that pulled
29:18up
29:18>> just in case it was
29:20>> um discussed. The uh the specific
29:25uh language in 250.170B
29:31terms for all climate resilience
29:33advisory team members shall expire at
29:35the time the climate resilience element
29:37is adopted by the city council.
29:40>> Yeah. So if this was something that the
29:42council desired to keep as you know more
29:46of a standing committee similar to
29:49something like you know the planning
29:50commission, the arts commission etc.
29:53then the council would need to amend
29:56that um municipal code language,
29:59>> right? But just second but currently
30:02that's how we're we're set up in the
30:05municipal code.
30:07>> Yes, that's correct. and and the duties
30:09and responsibilities are of the
30:11committee are specific to those u those
30:16duties to establish and recommend the
30:19goals and policies for the climate
30:20resilience element.
30:22>> Okay.
30:23>> So my comment
30:24>> so so Maria go ahead.
30:25>> My comment was actually right in line
30:27with what you and Juan are just talking
30:29about and I just want to call it out
30:31specifically. These are goals. This
30:33isn't something like a uh the ability to
30:36map the environmental burdens isn't
30:38something that's going to happen
30:39overnight. There should be a goal.
30:41>> If you know, if we know that there are
30:44environmental issues that exist here, we
30:46should absolutely be mapping them. I
30:48think it'd be totally negligent and
30:51irresponsible on this part of the city
30:53especially
30:54>> to not have more information about where
30:57we are going environmentally. I mean,
30:59you see, Mapton doesn't have good
31:01municipal water. Um, we saw not too long
31:04ago that even Sunny sides um wells were
31:07compromised because of whatever
31:09technology. Um, we know that Outlook is
31:12dealing with high rates of contamination
31:14because of the the dairy industry,
31:16because of Kayos. So, we we can't be
31:20blind.
31:22>> We can't be hold I'm not done. We cannot
31:24be blind to what what already exists.
31:27And I am not going to not name what the
31:31environmental harms are and who is
31:34causing those environmental harms. I
31:36think that's incredibly irresponsible
31:38and incredibly negligent and it is time
31:40to move forward with our communities
31:43with some plan of action to to help our
31:46environment to heal.
31:47>> Okay, Julia, just just one one moment.
31:50Now, one of the things
31:52>> Oh, yeah. Got the house hand raised.
31:54>> Um, hang on. Hang on one second
31:57>> and we'll come to you. I just want you
31:59to remember again these are goals. These
32:01are things that are not going to get
32:03done overnight. These are things that we
32:05hope we can do. Goals are things that
32:07you work towards.
32:08>> And um whether or not we can include
32:12mapping, that's a long-term goal. I
32:15don't think that's, as we've said,
32:16that's not something that's going to
32:18happen, you know, within the next 10
32:20years. We would hope it could, but
32:22again, this all is based on what the
32:25butt city's budget looks like coming
32:27forward. So, this just try to remember
32:30that. Um, the go I want to just make
32:33clear that the thing that we want to
32:35present to the planning committee, it's
32:38we've we've outlined everything that we
32:40think is a danger. We've outlined pretty
32:42thoroughly um
32:45and all of that information. And I think
32:48that the only thing today that I would
32:50hope that we could get done is to make
32:52sure that our goals that we're in we're
32:56in concert with the goals that we have.
32:58Katie, is it Katie or how do you say
33:00your name?
33:02Where's she at?
33:04>> You there?
33:05>> Sorry. Sorry. It takes me a while to get
33:06to the unmute section. um it's um but I
33:10didn't
33:11>> um I just I didn't when I read the
33:13suggested
33:15um feedback I didn't read it as an
33:17attack on anything. I think it was just
33:19laying it out. I don't know if Jacob has
33:22any suggested like language changes. But
33:24I think if this is definitely like an
33:26end goal, I think having some of that in
33:28there is really important if this is
33:29something the city needs to work
33:30towards. But that's just my suggestion.
33:32I don't know if there could be any like
33:34Jacob could provide some like edits on
33:37on the language, but I overall thought
33:39they all make sense and should
33:40definitely be included.
33:42>> Okay, next. Let's let's move on to the
33:45>> I got a question.
33:46>> Okay.
33:48>> Um I'm confused. When were these goals
33:50like CF3 through C17?
33:54When were these produced and when did we
33:56really discuss on those and when was
33:58were these exact policies presented
34:01>> to
34:01>> I need you that page to tell me what
34:03page you're looking at.
34:04>> I'm looking at like the goals of C13
34:06through C17.
34:08>> When were those specifically introduced
34:12to us committee so we could vote on
34:14before they were incorporated in our
34:16draft
34:17>> and so that the public could comment on
34:20them. And the other thing is these are
34:24last minute additions that dramatically
34:27change the range and scope of the work
34:31of this committee and this is last
34:34minute
34:35>> because other things are brought in that
34:37we never discuss. We never discussed
34:39nitrate monitoring article. We never
34:43discussed that we're going to have all
34:44the whales monitored which the
34:45department of ecology Julia is already
34:47doing all this. So why are we
34:49unnecessarily going to pinpoint a and
34:53also required our city to do more when
34:55you have limited resources? It's already
34:57being done by department of ecologies.
35:00Um SEPA does it the the environmental
35:03impact studies for any new business
35:05that's coming in or any expansions and
35:08department of a also monitors all this.
35:10So all this is being monitored Julius.
35:12But so why would you unconditionally
35:15want to put more burden on the city? So
35:17actually the department of ecology does
35:18not monitor wells. That's a department
35:20of health.
35:21>> Okay. Okay. Thank you for the
35:23clarification. One of the things that we
35:24want to be done.
35:26>> Yeah. But but one of
35:28>> not unless we and not unless we call
35:30them and ask them to.
35:31>> But that's what we do.
35:33>> Yeah. But that's that's what we do. We
35:35call them but that doesn't mean it's
35:38it's routinely done. That's not you know
35:40they send in water samples. We the city
35:42of Sunnyside's crew and the water
35:44department. They send in I don't know
35:47how often it is but they do send in
35:49samples which are then exam but that's
35:52the city we're not talking remember
35:55we're not talking about outside of the
35:57city limits those things impact us and
36:01that's why we want to talk about it but
36:04the things that we're talking about
36:06doing is what's going to happen inside
36:08the city limits and inside the
36:10comprehensive plan for grow our growth
36:13plan. I have a question for Joseph.
36:15>> Okay.
36:16>> In the municipal code, does it specify
36:18that the city water the wells are tested
36:22so that the citizens of Sunnyside know
36:24what kind of water they're drinking? Are
36:26they routinely tested?
36:28>> I think Hector could maybe answer that
36:29question.
36:30>> I don't know the answer to that
36:31question.
36:32>> What?
36:32>> Well, I mean, I'm just curious. I mean,
36:33are they tested now? So, the citizens
36:35know what we're what's the ranking?
36:37>> Yes. It's in the consumer confidence
36:38report that they put out every year.
36:40They put one of those out
36:42and so the water is being tested right
36:44now. Okay.
36:45>> Yeah. The water's, as I said, the water
36:47is tested routinely. It sends the
36:50Department of Health. If something comes
36:52back that's inky, then we we address it
36:54and we take care of it. That's that's
36:56what we need on that.
36:58>> Well, I think we do. I think we have to
37:00have that in there as a reminder that
37:04that's something that needs to be
37:05monitored. That's something that needs
37:07to continue to happen. Well, I hope it's
37:08mantra all the time, you know.
37:10>> Yeah, but you never assume because as
37:13soon as you start assuming that this has
37:16been something that's happened with me a
37:18lot. I've had that happen a lot. So, I
37:19know better to to assume something's
37:22being done without a lot of overwatch.
37:25Um I think if I think to get back to um
37:28I want to get back to if we can for a
37:31moment. There was Joseph, there was some
37:33things that were redlined. Did we
37:35approve those? I can't there's one on
37:37page 19 goal LU7.
37:41It was rewarded
37:43and it says to honor Sunnyside
37:45agricultural history while building a
37:46diverse sustainable economy that expands
37:49career opportunities, improves household
37:51economic security, protects
37:53environmental health and allows current
37:56and future generations to build stable
37:59lives in Sunnyside. Is that something
38:02the wording on that? Does anyone have
38:04any objection to that?
38:07>> Because I think that's been part of what
38:09we've talked about. So, I think that one
38:11was redlined and rewritten and we're in
38:13agreement.
38:14>> Yep.
38:14>> So, do we have a consensus on this one?
38:17Everybody,
38:18>> you say I
38:20>> I
38:21>> Cody,
38:22>> I.
38:24>> And Katie, Caddy,
38:27>> you say I.
38:28>> Yes, ma'am.
38:28>> Okay. Okay. So, all I Yes. Okay, moving
38:33along through here. Um to make sure that
38:37anything that's red line, I want to make
38:38sure that you're in consensus. So on
38:40page um 21, the goal is uh looks like ED
38:44is economic development. That's
38:46something we've just been talking about.
38:48So we've rewritten this to say build a
38:50diverse economy that increases household
38:52economic security while protecting
38:55Sunnyside's water, air, public health,
38:58and natural resources. I think that
38:59answers a couple of the questions we've
39:01had online.
39:03>> We're on page 21. Goal uh economic
39:06development number two. Um so we're re
39:10we've rewritten it to include um the one
39:13before was pretty uh
39:15>> vague vague. So this one is much more um
39:17I'm going to finish reading it. Health
39:19and natural resource. Economic
39:21development should be measured not only
39:22by business growth or the number of jobs
39:25created but by job quality and long-term
39:28economic environmental public health
39:31benefit provided to residents. Does
39:35anyone have any objections to that
39:36change?
39:38>> Nope.
39:38>> Nope.
39:40>> Aren't these aren't these goals right
39:42here is this kind of redundant in this
39:44whole section?
39:46>> No, I don't believe so. These these
39:48things were to make sure that we were
39:50very clear on what some of these
39:52>> I mean if we have these why did we need
39:53a whole new section? One is a one is a
39:56land use element and the other one is an
39:58economic economic development.
40:00>> So I'm referring that we have these
40:02goals in place and approved but why do
40:04we need these policies as
40:06>> okay well we're not looking at the
40:08policy. We're only right now let's just
40:10look at the fact that we're looking at
40:12the goals right now. Okay. Anything
40:14that's in red I want to have a
40:16consensus. Does everyone agree with the
40:18wording on goal ed uh economic
40:21development number two? Do I have a
40:22consensus? All say I. Hi.
40:26>> Hi.
40:27>> Hi.
40:28>> Okay, everybody. I Okay, running on. Um,
40:34let's see what else is in red here. And
40:38>> I think that was the primary red lines.
40:40The other new goals and policies are
40:44starting on page uh 9-14 with C goal C13
40:51and moving down from there. Those are
40:53all the proposed uh new goals and
40:56policies from the the draft providers in
40:59September.
41:00>> No, they're in green.
41:01>> They're in green. So things that are red
41:03or are strike through. Things that are
41:05green are new. So these are all all new
41:08language.
41:09>> Okay. So can you tell me the page I'm
41:11supposed to be on?
41:12>> Page 14.
41:13>> These are all
41:14>> starting at the bottom of 14.
41:15>> Oh, yeah. 14 starting.
41:16>> These are all the ones that were that
41:18were submitted by Maria herself.
41:20>> So [clears throat] I don't know. I think
41:23Joseph.
41:24>> Okay. Wait,
41:24>> Joseph, just uh for the sake of saving
41:27time and having to go back and forth,
41:29all of this has been discussed in our
41:30previous meetings.
41:32>> Oh.
41:32>> Um am I wrong or am I right?
41:35>> I go ahead.
41:36>> We we went through the those the new
41:39goals and policies starting on page 14,
41:42but
41:43>> we were correct.
41:46>> Say that again.
41:47>> We were ranking them where we wanted
41:48them to be on our priority list.
41:52might be correct.
41:53>> Not not specifically. The the request
41:56from the last meeting was to be able to
41:57have more time to review this new
41:59information and so that's why this
42:01meeting was scheduled
42:03>> and that's why we're trying to go
42:05through the
42:05>> so question. So what was the source of
42:08these goals C13
42:11through all these pages here through
42:14C17.5?
42:15Where was the source on those? Those are
42:18submitted by Maria or is that user?
42:21>> I think it's
42:22>> so yeah Joseph they we we've had these
42:25for a long Joseph was that
42:27>> those were from the Maria was the only
42:30member of the committee to submit
42:32comments and so I took the
42:37the proposed goal and policy language
42:39from her comments and included it as
42:41track changes so we could have this
42:43discussion.
42:45>> Thank you. So um
42:49so can you can
42:51>> sorry a quick question and just there's
42:54you're you're not seeing any concerns
42:56with the language that's was suggested
42:58correct?
43:01>> Um for the previous ones not
43:05specifically I I do think there's with
43:08the new ones some redundancy but that's
43:11for the committee to discuss I think.
43:14Um, let me just get them to where I can
43:17read both things at once. Sorry if I'm
43:20moving back and forth, but
43:21>> Okay. I I just want to make sure that we
43:23have an opportunity. Um, here on page
43:2614, are we starting at the bottom of the
43:29page with number 13?
43:35>> If you want to go through them
43:36individually, that's the first new one.
43:38Yes.
43:38>> I just I just I just want to hang on a
43:40minute. But Julie, I don't think we have
43:41time to go through all of these and
43:43because I've got to get back for a two
43:44o'clock.
43:45>> Um I I think that I think it's safe to
43:48say that if HLA had not if I think if
43:52there were concerns, they would have
43:53raised it a long time ago when I
43:55submitted the comments. Um when I
43:57submitted the goals and the language,
43:59they wouldn't be in here if you know a
44:02bunch of engineers didn't think that,
44:03you know, these weren't reasonable. So
44:05the only contention that you actually
44:07have Joseph was the mapping with the new
44:11the new goals that I submitted but I
44:14think that we made it clear that mapping
44:17should is just a goal that's what we
44:19should be moving towards and that's what
44:22what should be considered as the budgets
44:26the budget finally gets stability with
44:29the city. So, I you know, for the sake
44:33of time, because some of us have to get
44:35back to work, um I motion that we accept
44:38the draft changes, including the five
44:42new goals that I submitted last night,
44:45and to accept it as is.
44:48>> I'm second.
44:49>> Okay, let me let's make sure we have
44:51that. Um Miranda, would you be good
44:55enough to write that down?
44:57>> So, hang on a minute, we may have some
44:59discussion.
45:03Just just hold on please. I want to get
45:05this planned to write this corrections
45:08that you added
45:09>> with the five with the five new goals
45:11that I submitted last night because
45:12nothing is unre
45:15>> I chair.
45:16>> Yeah, just a moment please. I want to
45:18make sure she has this the wording
45:19because we could change the wording if
45:21necessary and Awan has seconded the
45:24motion.
45:30So now
45:33I want us to limit our our discussion
45:37um because this will be
45:40want you to remember that when we vote
45:42on this this will be the thing that we
45:45will end up sending to the planning
45:47commission the planning commission. Is
45:49that not correct Joseph?
45:52>> Correct.
45:52>> Okay. We're gonna So just remember that.
45:54So now there's changes or anything.
45:57Okay. So, I'm going to open it up for
45:58some discussion. I would like to let
46:00some of the folks who haven't said
46:02anything, uh, let's just do a roll call
46:04on that, Miranda, so that we make sure
46:06everybody gets a chance to say something
46:11because we got these guys in the room.
46:13But, you know, Zoom folks,
46:15>> okay, the Zoom folks, we're going to
46:16start with them
46:18>> and I'll let you do the roll call.
46:22Just start with who's whomever up there.
46:25Cody, do you have any comments?
46:28>> Any further discussion?
46:31>> No, I've been reading through them and
46:34while I can see some of them maybe
46:36double on the same thing. I don't think
46:38they're the wrong for setting goals, I
46:41agree with the comment of it being a
46:43goal, not necessarily necessarily the
46:45action steps. So, I'm I'm okay with them
46:48as of right now.
46:49>> I agree with Cody.
46:51[snorts]
46:52>> Is that Caddy? Yeah.
46:55>> Yes, ma'am.
46:56>> Thank you.
46:58I'm gonna look you up so I can see your
47:00face.
47:01>> Okay. Um All right. I'm going to go
47:03around the room. I'm going to since you
47:06made a motion, I'm going to start over
47:07here. I might have left. So, Karen, you
47:09had some discussion something.
47:11>> Seeing that we only have 10 minutes. I
47:13don't think it's fair for us to adopt
47:15something that came that we were emailed
47:16at 10:00 at last night because yes, some
47:19of us are working. I was working early
47:21today and and left to get here. like
47:24>> let's keep it to the
47:25>> we don't have time to discuss what we
47:27got sent at 10:00 at night. I don't
47:29think it's fair of you to ask the rest
47:30of us to approve something that we
47:33haven't had. We only have 10 minutes to
47:34discuss. We're still trying to discuss
47:36what was in this this draft right here.
47:40So, but you wanted to include what you
47:42sent last night at 10:00 and that's not
47:44really fair to the committee or to our
47:46or to the people we represent this
47:48community.
47:50>> That's okay.
47:53Alan.
47:56>> Well, I've been we've discussed
47:58>> we we've discussed a lot of this time
48:01and time again. Um I too work I had a
48:05chance to look it over. Um you may find
48:07for what's important. Uh that's what I
48:09believe. Um and I'm okay with us moving
48:11forward with uh the five added um
48:15suggestions like co like to reiterate
48:18what Cody Cooji said. This is not an
48:21action that's going to happen right now.
48:22It is a goal and that to my comment
48:26earlier that we are building our
48:27blueprint for our community based on the
48:31concerns of the people we represent
48:34which is our community our personal
48:35interests
48:37>> community member it is for the
48:39community.
48:40>> All right, you have a comment.
48:41>> Yeah, my comment is um to call the
48:43question.
48:44>> Call question.
48:47>> All right. So in order to do that would
48:50you uh Miranda will you read it back and
48:54the motion and then we will take a roll
48:57call vote as student should
49:00>> Yes. So um the motion on the table right
49:03now is to add the five new goals
49:07submitted um at 10:00 last night. You
49:10don't need to add that brief. She has
49:12the motion
49:14>> motion to add the five new goals uh to
49:17the rough draft
49:19>> to the draft
49:20>> and to accept the draft
49:21>> to the to the draft and accept the
49:23draft.
49:25>> So we're going to write we're going to
49:27say
49:27>> accept the draft as final.
49:35>> Can you repeat the last part?
49:37>> We accept the draft as final.
49:39>> Do you concur?
49:41I concur. [clears throat] I second.
49:44>> So then um calling for the question then
49:47um
49:49you read it. So all those in favor of
49:52the motion signify by saying I
49:56>> I
49:58>> I
50:00>> and I too vote uh I um those opposed.
50:05>> Yeah.
50:23So the motion passes
50:26and the uh with the addition of the five
50:29bowls we will send this on to we will
50:32add those and send this as a final
50:35document to the planning commission.
50:39at their next meeting which I believe is
50:41is uh October 13th. Um just real quick,
50:46Hector, did they meet at the law and
50:47justice center?
50:50>> What was that?
50:51>> Does the planning commission meet at the
50:53law and justice center?
50:55>> Yes.
50:56>> Yeah. And those are open meetings,
50:58correct?
50:59>> Correct.
50:59>> Okay. Now, their business will they have
51:02a lot of things on their agenda, but if
51:03will be included, correct?
51:06I believe so.
51:08>> Yeah, this is our final. We've we've
51:09voted on it. This is our final document.
51:11So, um yeah,
51:13>> Joseph, is there anything else you need
51:16from us?
51:17>> I I just want to for the record provide
51:20clarification to the motion. There's
51:23actually six policies. There's five
51:26points on that document, but there's
51:28>> there's two policies under economic
51:30development. And so I just I assume that
51:33that's what the the intent was was to
51:36include all of those.
51:37>> Thank you, Joseph. Sorry, I did miss the
51:39two that are in one.
51:40>> Yes. So, um amend my motion to accept um
51:44all of the goals stated within the
51:46documents um submitted last night, my
51:48comment submitted last night to include
51:50the six goals. Sorry about that.
51:52>> Okay. On the second, do we have uh
51:56>> I concur?
51:56>> Concur.
51:57>> Thank you for catching that, Joseph.
51:59>> Okay. And then uh just just to make
52:02sure, let's run that vote one more time
52:04to that everybody's
52:06>> Does everybody understand the motion
52:08now? The new motion.
52:12>> Yes. Yes.
52:14>> Yes. [clears throat]
52:15>> Okay. Down here. Yes.
52:17>> Yes. We got yeses and we got your vote.
52:23>> Yes. So,
52:26so that makes the motion pass as
52:28amended.
52:37Okay. Still under a wire. Okay. I want
52:41to um thank you Joseph for your patience
52:45with us and Hector and um I think we
52:49have a good document here. There's uh
52:52that the uh will go to the planning
52:55commission if they approve it. They may
52:57send it back to us for clarification. Is
53:00that not possible, Joseph?
53:03Uh, and I suppose it could be, but the
53:07the process point would be for the
53:09planning commission to make a
53:10recommendation on
53:12>> the comprehensive plan to city council
53:15who has the final
53:16>> and then and then the council and then
53:18the council would make its decisions
53:22>> or comments. Right. Okay. And you'll be
53:25for there for that?
53:28>> Yes.
53:28>> Okay.
53:31All right, then. Thank you all for all
53:33the hard work. I know that it I know
53:35that it's it's a uh it's hard. This is
53:39hard work and I appreciate everybody's
53:42input that has uh made made this
53:44possible and the value of your time and
53:47I understand that uh uh that's always a
53:50concern. We want to recognize your your
53:53time that you spend to it. Okay. Well,
53:56there's nothing. Is there anything
53:57further on our agenda that we need
54:00anything from items from committee or
54:02staff?
54:02>> That would be the next date.
54:04>> Uh we should should have another meeting
54:06just
54:08um and future future agenda items. I
54:11don't know what those might be. Uh we
54:14can add those at a later date if we come
54:16up. Please send them to uh to me and to
54:19Miranda
54:20um if there's any other items that we'd
54:23like to talk about. So, if we do have
54:25another meeting,
54:28uh this isn't our normal meeting date,
54:30but um since there's not the economic
54:33development group aren't meeting on the
54:35second Tuesday, we can steal that date
54:37if that's okay with everybody.
54:39>> So, you're changing the date now from
54:41the 10th to the 17th or from the
54:43>> We don't have to. We can vote on that.
54:45>> I think you should leave it where?
54:46>> Leave it at 10.
54:49>> The 17th.
54:51Yeah.
54:52>> 17th. So the next meeting then would be
54:54October
54:55>> 2 o'clock.
54:56>> October is that
54:58>> November 17th
55:00>> at 2 o'clock.
55:02>> The typical meeting schedule is the
55:04third Tuesday.
55:05>> Yeah, the third Tuesday. But again in
55:07looking at the
55:10municipal code requirements, you know,
55:12the develop the final uh duty and
55:16responsibility is developing goals and
55:18policies for the climate resiliency
55:20element, which now has been done with
55:22your motion today.
55:25So again, unless the council looks at,
55:30you know, some different language in
55:32this uh municipal code section, there's
55:37there's no action that needs to be taken
55:40at a subsequent meeting.
55:42>> Okay. So So are you saying that we
55:45probably don't need to meet on the until
55:48we have hear something back from the
55:50city council?
55:53>> Yeah. Well, and the term again is the
55:56term
55:58advisory team members terms expire when
56:01the element is adopted. So, so
56:04essentially you're telling us
56:05>> unless
56:08Yeah. Unless, as you as you questioned
56:10earlier, if if the planning commission
56:13was to revert back to the committee for
56:17more analysis or questions or, you know,
56:20whatever the the specific direction
56:22would be.
56:23>> According to the way the municipal code
56:25is worded, there there really wouldn't
56:28be a a need for a subsequent meeting.
56:31Okay.
56:31>> Joseph, do you mean adoption by the city
56:33as part of the comprehensive plan or
56:34adoption by this committee?
56:36>> No, we've done
56:38>> by the council. Okay.
56:40>> So, essentially, I think what he's
56:42saying, but I understand it correctly.
56:44We're done.
56:47>> All the work now has to go to planning
56:49commission and on to the council. Our
56:51work here as committ
56:55I'm extremely busy. So, and I do
56:58appreciate everyone's uh efforts to be
57:00here and their input. So,
57:02>> we can meet for a pizza party.
57:04[laughter]
57:05>> Food's always good. All right. Well,
57:07with without objection, this meeting is
57:09adjourned as the final meeting of the uh
57:12climate uh resiliency
57:16um committee.
57:18>> Thank you, Joseph.
57:19>> Thank you all for your time. Thank you.
57:21Thank you.
57:22>> And I'm sorry that you were insulted
57:23about not doing a good job. I thought
57:25you did a great job, Joe, with us.
57:30>> Nice working with you all.
57:32>> Thank you. Thank you, Hector. Thank you
57:35for hanging in there with us.
57:38>> Dang it, my hair is awful. Great.
57:42>> They talk to me about you. I'm

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